On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 4:13 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Tue, 26 Mar 2013 00:31:22 -0400: > Hi, > [snip] > >However, might the hbar arise because you overlooked the motion of the > >proton in conserving angular momentum? The electron is not orbiting a > >fixed point. > [snip] > Sorry Harry, I don't think so. In fact probably the reverse. The h_bar > arises > because that's the angular momentum of a photon. Natural constant. > Consequence > of the makeup of the fabric of space-time (IMO). > Any "jiggling" that occurs based on the motion of the nucleus might > however help > in making "forbidden" transitions somewhat possible. > > > Ok, but earlier you said Maxwellian EM dynamics leaves out hbar. When I heard this I thought you were claiming that it is possible to derive the existence of hbar by way of a mathematical argument, just as Einstein derived the relation E=mc^2. However, h is a condition imposed on the equations of Maxwell's EM dynamics to make them consistent with observations. Just as photons have angular momentum so do Mawellian EM waves, but the latter does not have to be quantized. Harry
