On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Edmund Storms <[email protected]>wrote:
> > On May 24, 2013, at 10:38 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > > > > > The process you have described has the characteristics of > a ratchet. Curiously, Jones used the ratchet metaphor in another post where > he characterised the effect of modulating the input on the cell. > > > Yes Harry, this can be called a ratchet. All kinds of ratchets exist in > Nature. The challenge is to find the cause. In this case, the nuclei have > to communicate before they have fused into a single nuclei. The form of > htat communication is unknown, but very important. Once discovered, this > will get someone the Nobel prize. > > Imagine the following sequence. The nuclei are held apart by an electron > bond, which is normally the case. Once formed, this structure starts to > resonate so that the two nuclei get periodically closer together. As they > approach each other, information is exchanged between the nuclei that tells > them they have too much mass -energy for being this close. After all, if > they were in contact, the excess mass-energy would be 24 MeV if the nuclei > were deuterons. But they are not in contact yet, so that the excess > mass-energy is less than the maximum. Nevertheless, this excess must be > dissipated, which each nuclei does by emitting a photon having 1/2 of the > excess energy for the distance achieved. After the photons are emitted, the > resonance moves the two nuclei apart, but this time not as far as > previously the case. The next resonance cycle again brings the nuclei > close, but this time they come closer than before, again with emission of > two photons. This cycle repeats until all energy has been dissipated and > the two nuclei are in contact. The intervening electron, that was necessary > to the process, is sucked into the final nucleus. Because very little > energy is released by entry of the electron, the neutrino, if it is emitted > at all, has very little energy available to carry away. > > This process, I suggest, is the unique and previously unknown phenomenon > that CF has revealed. > > Ed, Typically we associate quantization with attractive forces as is the case with an electron and a proton in a hydrogen atom, but your system involves quantization with repulsive forces. If pushing an electron and proton apart can happen in steps through the absorption of photons, I guess it follows that pushing together of protons can happen in steps through the emission of photons. However, in the former situation "the pushing apart" is the effect but the absorption of the photons is the cause, whereas in the latter situation the pushing together is the cause, and the emission of photons is effect....or is it? ;-) If it is the cause, then the emission of photons serves to pull the protons together. Harry PS. Wikipedia says the fractional quantum hall effect also involves quantized states of repulsion although they are between electrons rather than protons and deuterons.
