On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Vorl Bek <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 28 May 2013 16:46:34 -0700 > "Andrew" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Thank you for being straightforward on both points. > > > > And now we definitively know that the cable itself is "secret". > > > > Of course, that will not bother the majority of people here. Move along, > nothing to see here. > > I thought that what counted was the amount of power coming from > the mains, and the problem was whether or not Rossi had rigged > them so that there was 'hidden' power of some kind - DC or hf AC. > That is indeed what counts. The point is that the measurements reported fall far short of excluding some kind of deception on the input, including hidden wires (coax for example) or some other way to trick the meters. And the blank run inexplicably used a different power regimen, so it means nothing. Essen says they ruled out dc, but doesn't say how, and it's not ruled out by the reported measurements. I don't have a lot of confidence, given the reported measurements that Rossi can't fools the likes of Essen. But as in the cheese power videos, one does not have to understand the trick to be pretty sure there is one, because of how unlikely cheese power actually is. The point is that it would be easy to design a test of the cheese claim that would exclude tricks. But the ecat circuit is set up by Rossi, just like the cheese circuit is set up by Tinsel, and so tricks are likely. I think the questions about the other wires from the box to the ecat are simply about detecting tricks at the input, since the measurements are inadequate to do so. If, e.g., when they say they are cylcing the power off, it is actually still on, then there is a trick on the input. > > If the experimenters have ruled that out, and they have an > accurate idea of how much power is coming from the mains, I think the point is that they have not ruled it out to the satisfaction of skeptics. And it would be rather easy to do so.
