Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:

Experimentation that has been done by Ken Shoulders shows transmutation in
> the wake of the contact of an EV with a metal surface. No hydrogen was used
> in this experimentation.
>

This is another experiment that has not been independently replicated. It
might not be real.

If Shoulders or the Proton 21 claims are replicated then you would have
stronger grounds for saying that cold fusion may involve materials other
than hydrides. It is premature to say that now.

Oriani's experiment might also call into question the need for hydrogen,
but the only attempt to replicate that, reported at ICC18, failed. So the
claim is probably wrong as far as we can tell.

>


> Apparently, the deuterium meme is strong in Jed.
>

It is not a "meme." It is an experimentally established fact. This is
experimental science, not theory or handwaving. One-off experiments are not
credible until they have been replicated. The term "meme" is overused these
days.

- Jed

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