I almost took that as an honorable mention...

On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:29 AM, James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Axil, you speak with the authority of one who knows -- perhaps even more
> so than ChemE.
>
> Does your authoritative knowledge shed light on an economical
> demonstration of that knowledge?
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 11:24 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Radioisotopes are not produced in LENR  when the nucleus is suppressed
>> (coulomb barrio screened) by magnetic fields, because these photons do not
>> excite the nuclus like neutrons do. They carry no angular momentum or
>> kinetic energy to excite the nucleus.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 11:39 PM, Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>> These discussions about "suppressing" gamma rays and neutrons have been
>>>> around since the beginning of cold fusion.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It is true that some people in this thread have been arguing about the
>>> suppression of MeV-range gammas.  Like you say, this sounds pretty far-out.
>>>  Better not to have powerful gammas in the first place.  What is more
>>> interesting in the recent discussion is whether p+Ni fusion is ruled out by
>>> the evidence, and that has been what has absorbed a lot of our attention.
>>>  If low-level penetrating radiation is not allowed (e.g., photons in the
>>> keV range, some of which might be considered "gammas"), then p+Ni is
>>> contraindicated, because everything we know about p+Ni says that it will
>>> result in short-lived radioisotopes and associated emissions after it takes
>>> place, for a period of hours or days.  If low-level radiation is allowed,
>>> then p+Ni is not necessarily ruled out.  That is the heart of much of the
>>> recent thread.
>>>
>>> Jones wants to say that there is no penetrating radiation whatsoever in
>>> NiH.  He no doubt has his reversible proton fusion in mind.  Ed wants to
>>> say that what low-level radiation there is above a very low threshold is
>>> due to side channels (if I have understood him).  He has his hydroton in
>>> mind.  I've argued that the evidence bears otherwise on both counts, and
>>> that low-level penetrating radiation is both seen and is perhaps inherent
>>> to NiH cold fusion and not due to a side channel.  Although this discussion
>>> might look like the usual discussion about MeV gammas, really it has been a
>>> discussion about short-lived radioisotopes that follow upon whatever it is
>>> that cold fusion consists of.  So we've been having a discussion that is
>>> different than the usual "gamma" discussion.  Rossi's terminology confuses
>>> things, because he appears to refer to all photons in his system as gammas.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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