Ed,

Point me to something that illustrates your viewpoint.


On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Axil, you completely ignore what is observed and how the behavior is
> produced. Rather than suggest complex, obscure, and novel ideas, why not
> learn what is actually seen?
>
> Ed Stporms
>
> On Feb 2, 2014, at 10:24 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
>
> Radioisotopes are not produced in LENR  when the nucleus is suppressed
> (coulomb barrio screened) by magnetic fields, because these photons do not
> excite the nuclus like neutrons do. They carry no angular momentum or
> kinetic energy to excite the nucleus.
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 11:39 PM, Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> These discussions about "suppressing" gamma rays and neutrons have been
>>> around since the beginning of cold fusion.
>>>
>>
>> It is true that some people in this thread have been arguing about the
>> suppression of MeV-range gammas.  Like you say, this sounds pretty far-out.
>>  Better not to have powerful gammas in the first place.  What is more
>> interesting in the recent discussion is whether p+Ni fusion is ruled out by
>> the evidence, and that has been what has absorbed a lot of our attention.
>>  If low-level penetrating radiation is not allowed (e.g., photons in the
>> keV range, some of which might be considered "gammas"), then p+Ni is
>> contraindicated, because everything we know about p+Ni says that it will
>> result in short-lived radioisotopes and associated emissions after it takes
>> place, for a period of hours or days.  If low-level radiation is allowed,
>> then p+Ni is not necessarily ruled out.  That is the heart of much of the
>> recent thread.
>>
>> Jones wants to say that there is no penetrating radiation whatsoever in
>> NiH.  He no doubt has his reversible proton fusion in mind.  Ed wants to
>> say that what low-level radiation there is above a very low threshold is
>> due to side channels (if I have understood him).  He has his hydroton in
>> mind.  I've argued that the evidence bears otherwise on both counts, and
>> that low-level penetrating radiation is both seen and is perhaps inherent
>> to NiH cold fusion and not due to a side channel.  Although this discussion
>> might look like the usual discussion about MeV gammas, really it has been a
>> discussion about short-lived radioisotopes that follow upon whatever it is
>> that cold fusion consists of.  So we've been having a discussion that is
>> different than the usual "gamma" discussion.  Rossi's terminology confuses
>> things, because he appears to refer to all photons in his system as gammas.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>
>

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