Ed, Point me to something that illustrates your viewpoint.
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > Axil, you completely ignore what is observed and how the behavior is > produced. Rather than suggest complex, obscure, and novel ideas, why not > learn what is actually seen? > > Ed Stporms > > On Feb 2, 2014, at 10:24 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > > Radioisotopes are not produced in LENR when the nucleus is suppressed > (coulomb barrio screened) by magnetic fields, because these photons do not > excite the nuclus like neutrons do. They carry no angular momentum or > kinetic energy to excite the nucleus. > > > On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 11:39 PM, Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >> These discussions about "suppressing" gamma rays and neutrons have been >>> around since the beginning of cold fusion. >>> >> >> It is true that some people in this thread have been arguing about the >> suppression of MeV-range gammas. Like you say, this sounds pretty far-out. >> Better not to have powerful gammas in the first place. What is more >> interesting in the recent discussion is whether p+Ni fusion is ruled out by >> the evidence, and that has been what has absorbed a lot of our attention. >> If low-level penetrating radiation is not allowed (e.g., photons in the >> keV range, some of which might be considered "gammas"), then p+Ni is >> contraindicated, because everything we know about p+Ni says that it will >> result in short-lived radioisotopes and associated emissions after it takes >> place, for a period of hours or days. If low-level radiation is allowed, >> then p+Ni is not necessarily ruled out. That is the heart of much of the >> recent thread. >> >> Jones wants to say that there is no penetrating radiation whatsoever in >> NiH. He no doubt has his reversible proton fusion in mind. Ed wants to >> say that what low-level radiation there is above a very low threshold is >> due to side channels (if I have understood him). He has his hydroton in >> mind. I've argued that the evidence bears otherwise on both counts, and >> that low-level penetrating radiation is both seen and is perhaps inherent >> to NiH cold fusion and not due to a side channel. Although this discussion >> might look like the usual discussion about MeV gammas, really it has been a >> discussion about short-lived radioisotopes that follow upon whatever it is >> that cold fusion consists of. So we've been having a discussion that is >> different than the usual "gamma" discussion. Rossi's terminology confuses >> things, because he appears to refer to all photons in his system as gammas. >> >> Eric >> >> > >