Peter,
                Just for the record I do take poisoning seriously and think the 
catalysts should be manufactured and maintained in vacuum except for the active 
gas under test. IMHO the nano powder geometry would become smaller and  more 
robust in suppressing vacuum density if milled in a vacuum where ambient gases 
are not able to interact with the surfaces. Even chemically inert gas atoms 
might act like sand blasters at this scale if allowed to load into the bulk.  
Presently we need to saturate the lattice to strong arm this anomaly into 
existence but I suspect a very slight pressure would out perform this method if 
used with a vacuum maintained super catalyst or powder – the heat sinking would 
need to be engaged and robust before any gas enters the lattice because 
Pattersons beads and Naudins MAHG tube support my theory that the most active 
geometry immediately self destructs or reshapes thru plasticity to reduce the 
stiction forces –my point is that stiction may only be the little brother to a 
much larger force at a smaller geometry.
Fran

Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 2:41 PM
To: VORTEX
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:nice essay Jed



On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Jones Beene 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cook

>>>As a general rule – therefore it can be said that there is no correlation
between loading ratio and heat unless it is related to isotopes, meaning
that this detail about the lack of any correlation can be limited to
hydrogen (protium) and does not necessarily apply to deuterium<<<

I do not agree.  If the loading causes micro cracking in the Pd matrix, it
very well may correlate with heat.  Micro cracking would apply equally to H
and D and thus would suggest that D is necessary for the NAE reaction to
occur in Pd.  Since the loading near the surface is significantly greater
than away from the surface, the cracking near the surface could be expected
to be more frequent with higher NAE density.
Bob,

Yes, micro cracking would apply equally.

But your logical error is in assuming that cracking is necessary for gain.

It isn't, depending of course on how it is defined. Cracking is one of many 
possible routes to gain and NOT the only route by far. At the nanoscale, it 
would be irrelevant anyway.

In the Pd matrix for instance, cracking correlates to excess heat with 
deuterium, and NOT with hydrogen. In fact some of the SEM images of the 
Arata-type particles which give excess heat with nickel have no cracking per 
se, since they are essentially too small to crack.

This material is active for hydrogen and has no cracking. I believe Brad Lowe 
may be sending some of his supply to Quantum Heat.

http://www.quantumheat.org/images/NanoPowders/Quantum_Sphere_Nano_Nickel_SEM.jpg


I think that this discussion will end without an unanimously accepted
conclusion; this happens in the 26th year of Cold Fusion history- isn't this 
disturbing?
Add to this the fact that excess heat happens only in a few cases of many
for all the parameters described here, so we have a problem. A wicked problem.
Taking in account this essential problem solving rule: "

NOT what we know, but what we don‟t know is more important for
solving the problem.

it is very plausible that we still do NOT KNOW something vital for excess heat 
to happen and io be useful and controllable. It seems there are unknown, hidden 
parameters- and these are even more relevant than those discussed
here.One of these could be  the presence of gases (any gas that is not 
hydrogen, all the components of air) on the active surfaces. JUst to mention 
that today is the 17th anniversary of my first formulation of this poisoning 
hypothesis that was never taken seriously by my colleagues working with Pd D.
On the NiH line, Piantelli and Defkalion claim deep degassing i.e. 
aliengas-free surfaces area sine qua non condition of excess heat.

This discussion has started from Jed's FQXI essay. An essay with a very 
significant title (not content) for CF is "You cannot live in the Cradle 
forever"

However if you do not want to grow and mature, the Cradle is just fine.

Peter

--
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

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