Robin,
My point was that this anomaly is NOT in accordance with the present
definition of COE and the change in geometry [DCE]of powder or skeletal
catalyst is needed to form an HUP trap "fueled" by the gas motion which never
diminishes regardless of quanity - the same gas could be used endlessly needing
only enough pressure and circulation to maintain loading as the process heats
and cools the gas similar to wind patterns where acute hydrinos are formed in
the geometry of highest confinement and become less acute as they are randomly
directed to less confined areas - not that this alone would create energy but
at this point you would append your favorite theory to create the asymmetry
needed to produce heat, you know my favorite is that hydrino molecules are
relativistic and their phase opposes movement to a different inertial frame
while hydrino atoms can change inertial frames unopposed which has the effect
of discounting the heat needed to disassociate the molecule to over unity using
the normally unexploitable energy source of random motion. IMHO it is a self
assembling form of a Maxwellian demon but I am open to many of the other
theorys - I just think using DCE and HUP as your underlying starting point is
at least a better start that gives the plasmons, ion charges, hydrotrons and
all the others an initial leg to stand on - I also like the commonality in this
perspective because you can easily envision this same sort of changing
confinement in the collapsing bubbles of sonoluminescence.
Of course my initial theory that virtual particle density equates to
relativistic values of consequence is a tall order for the mainstream that sees
near C velocities as the entry fee to these types of effects but I remain
convinced that suppressing density is much easier than compressing it like the
difference between accelerating a car thru a rainstorm to compress the pressure
as opposed to opening a beach umbrella to reduce it. Albeit a very small nano
beach umbrella where the rest of the macro world remains in the rainstorm we
call the isotropy. I think this system allows us to pit the square law of
isotropy against the emerging dynamic inverse cube law of DCE while still being
powered by the local random motion of gas law in these tiny inertial frames the
gas is encountering.
Getting back to topic I think you need cathode DCE geometry AND gas loading to
create energy making the DCE geometry a better metric since it is the only area
this type of energy can be harnessed into the macro world.
Fran
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 6:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:nice essay Jed
In reply to Roarty, Francis X's message of Thu, 8 May 2014 11:27:09 +0000:
Hi,
[snip]
>I disagree with this portion of your reply [snip] Since the actual source of
>energy is likely to be
>the Hydrogen in the water, not the actual cathode metal, the volume of the
>cathode is pretty much irrelevant [/snip] Yes the energy may come from the
>gas but it is the lattice confinement and change in level of confinement at
>the defects that provide the environment that liberates this normally
>inaccessible source of energy from hydrogen - We don't have to accept ZPE,
>hydrino or hydrotron to all agree that defects in lattice geometry, their
>population density and their topologies allow this energy to be produced such
>that you have to consider the hydrogen and the containment together as the
>actual energy source so Jeds' focus on the cathode geometry as a crude metric
>seems viable.
This would only be true if the NAE was destroyed when the reaction happened, and
were incapable of reforming. If either of these two are not true, then the
"cathode" (for want of a more general term) has to be considered to be an
"engine" and the Hydrogen has to be considered the "fuel".
You do not calculate the energy density of engines. You calculate the energy
density of fuels.
(Unless as Jed mentioned, you are stuck with the Hydrogen in the cathode, and it
is not replaceable - in which case the outlook for CF is far more restricted.)
Note however that both Rossi & Defkalion appear to use a regular supply of
external Hydrogen.
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
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