In reply to Roarty, Francis X's message of Fri, 9 May 2014 11:50:16 +0000: Hi Francis, [snip] >Robin, > My point was that this anomaly is NOT in accordance with the present > definition of COE and the change in geometry [DCE]of powder or skeletal > catalyst is needed to form an HUP trap "fueled" by the gas motion which > never diminishes regardless of quanity - the same gas could be used endlessly > needing only enough pressure and circulation to maintain loading as the > process heats and cools the gas similar to wind patterns where acute hydrinos > are formed in the geometry of highest confinement and become less acute as > they are randomly directed to less confined areas - not that this alone would > create energy but at this point you would append your favorite theory to > create the asymmetry needed to produce heat, you know my favorite is that > hydrino molecules are relativistic and their phase opposes movement to a > different inertial frame while hydrino atoms can change inertial frames > unopposed which has the effect of discounting the heat needed to disassociate > the molecule to over >unity using the normally unexploitable energy source of random motion. IMHO it >is a self assembling form of a Maxwellian demon but I am open to many of the >other theorys - I just think using DCE and HUP as your underlying starting >point is at least a better start that gives the plasmons, ion charges, >hydrotrons and all the others an initial leg to stand on - I also like the >commonality in this perspective because you can easily envision this same sort >of changing confinement in the collapsing bubbles of sonoluminescence. >Of course my initial theory that virtual particle density equates to >relativistic values of consequence is a tall order for the mainstream that >sees near C velocities as the entry fee to these types of effects but I remain >convinced that suppressing density is much easier than compressing it like the >difference between accelerating a car thru a rainstorm to compress the >pressure as opposed to opening a beach umbrella to reduce it. Albeit a very >small nano beach umbrella where the rest of the macro world remains in the >rainstorm we call the isotropy. I think this system allows us to pit the >square law of isotropy against the emerging dynamic inverse cube law of DCE >while still being powered by the local random motion of gas law in these tiny >inertial frames the gas is encountering. >Getting back to topic I think you need cathode DCE geometry AND gas loading to >create energy making the DCE geometry a better metric since it is the only >area this type of energy can be harnessed into the macro world. >Fran All you have said here is that both the Hydrogen and cathode constitute an engine and that the fuel is effectively the ZPE.
You might be right. Time will tell. However I suspect that Hydrogen is more likely the fuel. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

