I wondered how long it would take for someone to suggest this "solution" - thanks John for raising this one. Having come from a Windows background, I find it hard to move to a program (Mail) that doesn't have Contacts and Calendar functions integrated into the one app. Mail is just one part of daily activity and within Entourage (like MS Outlook) it is a nice integrated look and feel, not to mention logical, to have Mail/Calendar/Contacts integrated into one app.
Can Mail/iCal/Contacts be managed in the same way? I am not 100% settled on Entourage and prepared to consider Mail/iCal/Contacts but it seems retrograde to use 3 apps for what one app can manage albeit with this bug. Maybe Microsoft will arrange a fix for this or maybe I'll use the noted work-around (a la Time Machine Scheduler) for the temporary "solution" to my problem. Regards Peter..... ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Thompson Sent: Tuesday, 2 February 2010 9:20 AM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: Entourage bug A very simple solution - ditch Entourage and use Mail. John Thompson On 02/02/2010, at 7:42 AM, Crisp, Peter wrote: Yes, Entourage is left running all day for the usual email correspondence that we all use, so quitting Entourage (and all other Microsoft apps) is not really practical - the back up starts whenever it likes to and maybe I could extend that to daily backups - timed to occur at 2AM - is that possible? Any advice on how I can escape the hang that comes when backup overlaps use of the Microsoft apps gratefully appreciated. Thanks for the link Ronni. Regards Peter.. ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Severin Crisp Sent: Monday, 1 February 2010 10:48 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: Entourage bug Interesting. I have Word and Excel from Office 2008 always running but have no problems with hourly Time Machine backups (Leopard). I do not use Entourage at all. Severin Crisp On 01/02/2010, at 9:20 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Peter, >From Microsoft support you must quit all Microsoft Applications before backing up. "backing up hourly you must quit quit All Microsoft applications (Entourage, Word, Excel, PowerPoint, My Day, Office Reminders, Messenger) and the Microsoft Database daemon before backing up. See article Quit all Microsoft applications before backing up <http://blog.entourage.mvps.org/2009/04/quit_all_microsoft_applications_ before_backing_up.html> " < <http://blog.entourage.mvps.org/2009/04/quit_all_microsoft_applications_ before_backing_up.html> http://blog.entourage.mvps.org/2009/04/quit_all_microsoft_applications_b efore_backing_up.html> Also, force shutting down your your MacBook is NOT recommended. Sent from Ronni's iPhone On 01/02/2010, at 8:42 PM, "Crisp, Peter" < <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> wrote: I have noticed what I believe is a bug in Entourage (Office 2008). I have a Macbook 13" 1 month old so running Snow Leopard. I also have a Time Capsule. When the hourly backup is running AND at the same time I attempt to Attach a file to an email I am preparing, it all hangs up solid. Option/Command/Escape allows me to crash Entourage which reports as "Not Responding" but I have only been able to get back to 'normal' by a forced crash by holding down the Power button and starting again. This seems a bit savage but I am not aware of a more elegant solution. Is this a bug that anyone else has noted and any tips for elegantly restoring the balance without savagely crashing the machine and in turn interrupting the backup as well? Kind Regards Peter... 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