Hi Ronni, On the same subject. Have this morning installed the 10.10.3 software. After I opened Photos it goes into a tutorial: “Welcome to Photos” I declined iCloud sharing. The sidebar shows Photos, but when I click on it there are no photos. I have been able to successfully import 1 photo from the desktop into Photos. I can still see the photos on my TV via Apple TV. Do I have to manually import all the photos ?
Thanks, Cheers Walter > On 27 Apr 2015, at 11:50 , Severin Crisp <[email protected]> wrote: > > Ronni, many thanks for that elegant explanation. You have saved me from a > possible disaster - I had saved my iPhoto libraries in place, all 21 of them > - and planned to trash them when all had seemed settled! > Hope you can enjoy a sunny day without worrying about too many other people’s > problems! > Severin > >> On 27 Apr 2015, at 11:39 am, Ronni Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Oh Peter, >> >> I said I would get back to you when possible, I wish you had waited. I am >> busy with Clients work and really don’t have time at present but reading >> your email I decided to reply to try to explain quickly how the process >> works. >> >> What you are now doing is Creating a NEW iPhoto Library (Duplicating all the >> Media Files in iPhoto Library package)! >> You are not understanding the iPhoto & Photos Directory structure... and how >> ‘Hard Links’ work so there is no duplication or extra space required on the >> system. >> >> The Transition/Import from iPhoto to Photos has to be done on your wife’s >> MBP where the Library files are in the correct locations to link the two >> libraries using ‘Hard Links’. >> >> Hard Facts about Hard Links >> On import, Photos makes a Hard Link to all iPhoto media assets in its own >> library package, using the same directory structure as iPhoto (The libraries >> say they’re roughly the same size, but in fact, they’re sharing disk space >> via hard links). >> Think of hard links as a cousin of Finder aliases—rather than existing in >> one place with an alias in a different location, files that are 'hard >> linked' appear to live in two places at once, but only take up the space of >> a single file. >> >> Your old library won't be converted, just imported, so you can still open it >> in Aperture or iPhoto if you like (though once you import, if you do >> anything new with that library in Aperture, it won't carry over to the >> Photos version). >> >> So what happens if you edit one of those files? Something clever: if I edit >> a file from a migrated iPhoto library in Photoshop, that version is >> altered—but the version in the Photos library is untouched. >> Basically, the act of modifying a hard-linked file causes the link to break. >> Now there are two different files, both taking up disk space, living >> independently. >> For Mac users accustomed to the a-file-is-a-file approach of the Finder, >> this one’s a bit of a head-scratcher, but it’s a smart move by Apple to >> allow us to migrate to Photos without duplicating an entire library and >> eating all of our free disk space—or worse, never bothering to upgrade to >> Photos because we don’t have the room. >> >> The new Photos library references the same master images as your old >> library, so you don't need the space to store images twice. It also makes >> for an incredibly efficient migration process. >> --- >> But because of your initial (dare I say - stuffup) this hasn’t happened. How >> to correct it?? I need more information - what is on your wife’s MBP. >> From what I can ascertain from your emails - >> A). On your wife's MBP in her User Home Folder > Pictures - there are these >> two files "iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibary” and "Photos >> Library.photoslibrary"… Is this correct? >> B). And your wife's MBP only has ONE iPhoto Library on her system... is this >> correct? >> C). And when you try to open PHOTOS on her MBP it doesn’t open... is this >> correct - or what happens? >> >> One suggestion I will make: >> On her MBP - If she double-clicks on the "Photos Library.photoslibrary" >> does it open in PHOTOS? >> If NOT >> Hold down the Option key as you open the PHOTOS app in the Dock to see the >> 'Choose Library dialog' window. >> Click 'Other Library' >> Select the 'iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary' >> See if that completes the ‘preparing for import’ >> >> Cheers, >> Ronni >> >> >>> On 27 Apr 2015, at 6:26 am, [email protected] wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Ronni. I think I've cracked it. I opened iPhoto with Option held >>> and selected "Create New". I set a new location for the new database >>> library file. Once that was set up, I then selected Import and pointed to >>> the "transitioning" iPhoto Library that I've been unable to open up in the >>> conventional way. So last night it was able to commence the import of the >>> photos and i can see the images on screen as it counts down. The >>> transitioning Library was ~250GB and I had no choice but to let it proceed >>> when it asked "confirm you have enough disc space" - I had ~750GB free on >>> my 2TB drive which at the time seemed enough. Once it had started, it said >>> "Importing 335,000 photos"!!! I don't recall there ever being that many, >>> however, it was still Importing this morning with 225,000 to go but only >>> 250GB space left. I think it will run out of space at that rate.Oh well, I >>> am not so worried about that, at least I have now got a way to access them. >>> I will get myself another 2TB drive and when I am home will start the >>> process again. I am somewhat puzzled though that it is now apparently much >>> larger than it was. Perhaps there is a compression that can be done or >>> maybe this is all a consequence of the process of how I've got into this >>> pickle. >>> >>> Maybe there is still another method to properly unpick the library without >>> resorting to an Import process. I am keen to hear if you or anyone else has >>> encountered this and methods for unpicking the mess I've got myself into. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Pete. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: >>> [email protected] >>> >>> To: >>> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> Cc: >>> >>> Sent: >>> Sun, 26 Apr 2015 17:53:44 +0800 >>> Subject: >>> Re: iPhoto to Photos migration >>> >>> >>> Hi Peter, >>> >>> I haven't got time tonight, but I will get back to your problem when >>> possible. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ronni >>> >>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4 >>> >>> >>> On 26 Apr 2015, at 4:20 pm, [email protected] wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ronni, yes I feel a real goose for the steps I took (in hindsight). >>> >>> As I work away (and am away from home for a further 2 odd weeks), I placed >>> a copy of both (iPhoto and Photos) library files onto my 2TB external drive >>> and using my Retina MBP to try and unpick this mess remotely from my Wifes >>> MBP. A necessity as this happened the day prior to my departure. >>> >>> So i have the two files "iPhoto Library" and "Photos Library" both sitting >>> within one folder on the external drive (each file is saying around 295GB >>> from Get Info but not identical sizes). They are also still in place in the >>> User>Photos folder on my Wife's MBP as I restored the iPhoto library from >>> Trash using the "Put Back" command. >>> >>> When I attempt to open the iPhoto library (using the Option key method on >>> my Retina), it reflects as iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary Which would >>> suggest that the library underwent the start of its transformation in >>> readiness to be 'hard linked' with the Photos library. But the >>> transformation was never completed. >>> >>> I do not have a backup I can revert to at any stage prior to the update - >>> coz I blew away the Sparesebundle! >>> >>> Pete. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: >>> [email protected] >>> >>> To: >>> "WAMUG" <[email protected]> >>> Cc: >>> >>> Sent: >>> Sun, 26 Apr 2015 15:38:45 +0800 >>> Subject: >>> Re: iPhoto to Photos migration >>> >>> >>> Hello Peter, >>> >>> Sounds like you have really messed up the transition/import of iPhoto >>> Library to Photos... and then did a Time Machine backup BEFORE testing >>> everything was working correctly.... >>> >>> The first time you launch Photos, it searches your system for iPhoto and >>> Aperture libraries. If only one library fits the bill, it imports that >>> library. Otherwise, it opens the Choose Library dialog window - Choose a >>> library from the list, and Photos prepares the library for import. >>> >>> Photos needs to prepare your iPhoto Library before it imports into a new >>> Photos library. >>> When you import an iPhoto library into Photos, your existing library >>> remains intact. The net result of the import is that you’ll have two >>> separate libraries on your Mac’s drive: your old iPhoto library and a new >>> Photos library >>> >>> The Import does NOT duplicate iPhoto Library but uses “Hard Links". Your >>> iPhoto Library remains intact, BUT a new Photos Library comes into being. >>> The Libraries say they’re roughly the same size, but in fact, they’re >>> 'sharing disk space' via ‘hard links’. >>> >>> After the successful transition ‘Migration' from iPhoto to Photos you will >>> have in your User > Pictures folder - 2 separate Libraries: >>> "iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary” AND “Photos Library.photoslibrary" >>> >>> On 25 Apr 2015, at 9:30 am, [email protected] wrote: >>> >>> Last week I updated my wife's 2012 MBP to latest OSX which brought the new >>> Photos application. I had done my own 2014 Retina MBP previously without >>> issue and have all my images carried over into Photos without a hitch >>> >>> The issue with my Wife's machine is I did the update and am unable to see >>> the images in Photos. I just get the intro screen with the 4 options for a >>> new user. I've done the "Option" whilst starting it up and directed it to >>> the new Photo Library file and still nothing. The Photo Library file shows >>> in Get Info of 295GB so it would appear to be a file containing the picture >>> and video files but how do I access it? >>> >>> An issue potentially caused by me was that after the update, I ran a >>> cleaner (Cleanmymac) and it did some cleaning. I did in my travels after >>> the cleaning notice in the Trash can was the old iPhoto Library!!! I assume >>> this was an action of cleanmymac. So I selected "Put Back" and it in turn >>> is now placed alongside the Photos Library in the default Apple folder >>> location. >>> >>> It was only after this that I opened Photos for the first time and I >>> suspect that upon first opening, it runs a script which does the migration >>> (but not duplication) of image files. >>> >>> Oh goodness... Yes, that is correct. The first time Photos is opened (as >>> I’ve mentioned above) the transition (Import from iPhoto) is run. >>> But you are saying your wife’s iPhoto Library was not in the correct >>> location in Pictures... but was sitting in the Trash! >>> >>> It gets worse - much worse I am afraid. >>> >>> I don’t want to read anymore :( >>> >>> During the update I turned Time Machine off to prevent unwanted backups >>> during the process of updating. I think this is a recommended practice >>> anyway. Well, after the dust settled (but before running Photos) I turned >>> TM back on and it goes through the Preparing Backup routine for a looong >>> while and then says Backing Up 325GB!!! I pressed the cross to stop that >>> and thought about it a bit. Running low on TM disc space and having done >>> this previously (and never once having had to call upon the TM backup to >>> retrieve anything in the 6 years of Mac ownership) decided I would delete >>> the Sparesebundle file and do a new Backup from scratch . I suspect that >>> the Preparing Backup routine spotted the iPhoto Library in the Trash and >>> the Photos library in its normal home and detected there are two libraries >>> to back up hence the order of magnitude of the backup. >>> >>> Anyway, now that I am over this, I still have the problem where neither >>> iPhoto nor Photos will open showing my wifes previous images. >>> >>> When I launch iPhoto - I get a message "Aperture needs updating" so when I >>> try that, it says the version of Aperture required is not available in the >>> Australian Apple Store - so no good there >>> >>> When I launch Photos - I get the first time user screen. If I select >>> Albums, I see the greyed image of the previous Events folders as Albums and >>> the names of Albums are accurate per the previous iPhotos Events folder, >>> but upon opening, nothing is visible. Still no images. >>> >>> Whilst in hindsight some of my actions have been not very good, I still >>> don't understand why I can get at my images/videos? >>> >>> Whilst in hindsight now ‘some’ but almost all your actions have not been >>> good from what I can ascertain from your email :( >>> >>> Anyone have any ideas how to get out of this pickle? >>> >>> Let us now exactly what Library files you have in User > Pictures please - >>> and also if you have a backup of your wife’s iPhoto Library BEFORE you did >>> the Update to OS X 10.10.3? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ronni >>> >>> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Intel Quad-Core i7 >>> 2.3GHz / 16GB / 1TB 840 EVO SSD >>> >>> OS X Yosemite 10.10.3 >>> >>> Pete :( >>> >> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > > ____________________________________________________ > > Assoc Prof R Severin Crisp, FAIP, FIP, CPhys > 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia > ph (08) 9842 1950 ( Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) > mail to: [email protected] > ____________________________________________________ > > > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
