Sorry Peter for calling you 'Chris' below... that is another problem I'm working on :(
Sent from Ronni's iPad4 > On 17 May 2015, at 11:18 am, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Peter, > > This is so disappointing - If only you had a backup of the original (working > correctly) iPhoto Library. :( > You definitely don't have any backup of this iPhoto Library on an external > drive or something? > I find it hard to believe that you would ONLY rely on Time Machine for > backups... no CCC or SuperDuper! backups or just photos backed up on a > external drive. > > Chris, Before you make this decision, give the Photos Repair another go and > this time - after the repair completes 100% and the Photos App remains > open.... and displays No images only blank gray albums - Leave it open for > all day. > The Photos Library is 292.84GB size, so a large amount of photos to be > converted/upgraded and also a lot of Spotlight reindexing is being done in > the background, this could take many hours. > > Disconnect anything attached to the MBP, quit all other applications. > Launch Photos with The Command and Option keys held down, in the resulting > your library will be repaired window - click Repair > After it completes repair just leave Photos open and leave it for as many > hours as possible overnight if you can... and let's see what happens > > Picasa: > I've never used Picasa so don't know much about it. > But I'm not sure if you will get Picasa to work now in OS X 10.10.3 with your > current (faulty) iPhoto Library that has been upgraded for Photos. > From what I can find out about Picasa it doesn't store any of your photos, it > simply scans your hard drive and displays the photos it finds. In this way, > Picasa folders represent the actual directories containing photos on your > Mac's hard drive. > Picasa handles the iPhoto Library in the same way, with a small variation > made for the way the iPhoto Library organizes your photos: If you've made > edits in iPhoto, each album or event in your iPhoto Library contains an > 'Originals' folder and a 'Modified' folder. Picasa scans the photos and > videos in both the 'Originals' and 'Modified' folders, and displays a single > collective folder with the most recent version of each file. > > The photos in your iPhoto Library will be displayed in the 'iPhoto Library' > collection as 'Read-Only' files. The Read-Only status is necessary to ensure > that Picasa and iPhoto work well together. > By default, Picasa for Mac will look for your iPhoto Library in Pictures > > iPhoto Library. > > Let us know how you get on please. > Best of luck. > > Cheers, > Ronni > > Sent from Ronni's iPad4 > > >> On 17 May 2015, at 8:31 am, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Thanks Ronni, See below underlined for responses. >> >> Regards >> >> >> Pete >> >>> On 16 May 2015, at 6:52 pm, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> In the view menu of Photos be sure that the Sidebar is shown (View > Show >>> Sidebar) - iPhoto events have been converted into albums and are in the >>> albums sections in a folder named "iPhoto events". >>> Can you double-click on a 'greyed box' and see an image? Yes I tried this >>> and no images show, the header shows the Album folder name but no images. >>> I know you mentioned before you see a white box after you click. >>> Can you open any image under Albums in the Side? None of the iPhoto events >>> open any images, I tried about 6 or 8 of them at random. >>> >>> The thumbnails are damaged and Photos doesn't have a specific First Aid >>> procedure to Rebuild Thumbnails like iPhoto does. >>> >>> Something worth doing is - Boot the MBP into Recovery Volume (Command + R >>> keys down). Select Disk Utility and 'Repair Disk Permissions' and 'Repair >>> Disk'. >>> Reboot normally and try Photos again. I tried this and then reboot and open >>> Photos - still no joy, all as it was prior. >> >> I was contemplating a third party photo manger like Picasa or Lyn. I know in >> theory the iPhoto and Photos pair of apps is a good thing and cleverly cross >> mapped and I am in this pickle due to my own actions, but given the intended >> use of the photos for my wife (she doesn't edit, just wants to keep a record >> for posterity and have an easy to use program for viewing her pics and >> occasional emailing of one or two), the photos are all nicely configured in >> Year/Month/Day folders, does it really matter what front end to view them >> with? She certainly has no desire to have two photo viewing programs (iPhoto >> and Photos) I know that might be defeatist in reaching a point like this, >> but I don't want to waste any more of your time given the fairly exhaustive >> lengths gone to so far. I haven't done this yet,merely contemplating. >>> >>> I'll send you 'off-list' a screenshot of my opened Photos showing Albums - >>> All Photos -Faces etc FYI. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ronni >>> >>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4 >>> >>> >>>> On 16 May 2015, at 2:16 pm, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Ok see below. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> Pete >>>> >>>>> On 16 May 2015, at 1:37 pm, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Can you open iPhoto from the Dock with the Option Key held down and see >>>>> the dialog window... "Which Photo Library do you want iPhoto to use" >>>>> What Libraries show there?... iPhoto Library - if so click 'choose'. Yes, >>>>> the iPhoto library shows there (the only choice), when I choose I get the >>>>> dialogue back which says "Aperture library needs to be upgraded". >>>>> >>>>> In the Pictures folder do you have "Aperture Library.aplibrary" >>>>> If so what version is it? No, there is no Aperture library in the >>>>> Pictures folder. I've not installed Aperture on any of our 5 MBP's. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 16 May 2015, at 12:28 pm, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Ok, yes I appreciate this is not simple by emails. Responses underlined. >>>>>> >>>>>> See below. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Pete >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 16 May 2015, at 11:56 am, Ronni Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Without knowing exactly what you did and the order in which you did >>>>>>> things, fixing this is really hard work not being able to physically >>>>>>> check your computer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have run the Repair Photos library as you've suggested here and it >>>>>>>> runs through to 100%. Still same status with no photos showing after >>>>>>>> that, old iPhoto events list still showing all greyed out. >>>>>>> You Quit Photos.app after it completed the Repair & then relaunched >>>>>>> Photos App normally (from the Dock)? Yes, I did this and same result, >>>>>>> no photos showing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do you have iPhoto.app in the Dock? If not place it in the Dock and try >>>>>>> this: Yes, I put it back there onto the Dock now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Launch iPhoto App (from the dock) with COMMAND + OPTION keys held >>>>>>> down >>>>>>> This will bring up 'iPhoto Library First Aid’ panel >>>>>>> 2. Select ‘Repair Permissions’ >>>>>>> 3. Click ‘Repair’ >>>>>>> Then Quit iPhoto >>>>>> >>>>>> I tried steps above and iPhoto does not open, I get the dialogue box >>>>>> which says "Aperture library needs to be upgraded". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4. Launch iPhoto App (from the dock) with COMMAND + OPTION keys held >>>>>>> down again >>>>>>> 5. Select ‘Repair Database’ >>>>>>> 6. Click ‘Repair’ >>>>>>> Then Quit iPhoto >>>>>> >>>>>> Same as above, "Aperture library needs to be upgraded". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> See if you can then launch iPhoto normally and see all your photos. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 16 May 2015, at 11:09 am, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ever since the update to OSX, iPhoto hasn't worked - I have just been >>>>>>>> presented with the message "Aperture library needs to be upgraded". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I believe it was the cleaner app which placed the iPhoto library in >>>>>>>> the Trash but from over 3 weeks ago I can't recall if that cleaning >>>>>>>> operation was before or after doing the OSX update - if I was to guess >>>>>>>> I would say I ran the cleaner app after the OSX update. If the >>>>>>>> cleaning was run before OSX update (and the iPhoto library was in >>>>>>>> Trash while the OSX update ran), perhaps this is the reason. What if I >>>>>>>> did a trial and placed the iPhoto library back in Trash (without >>>>>>>> emptying naturally) and then tested the operation of iPhoto and >>>>>>>> Photos? If the mapping for Photos (with its intelligent cross mapping >>>>>>>> with iPhoto) was established with the iPhoto library in Trash, that >>>>>>>> may account for the 'broken' front end to back end connection as the >>>>>>>> locations of the files in the mapping table is wrong? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have run the Repair Photos library as you've suggested here and it >>>>>>>> runs through to 100%. Still same status with no photos showing after >>>>>>>> that, old iPhoto events list still showing all greyed out. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pete >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 16 May 2015, at 9:20 am, Ronni Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ok Peter, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As I mentioned previously The file sizes on the two Libraries >>>>>>>>> indicate the update/transition has completed... but there is some >>>>>>>>> damage or corruption. >>>>>>>>> When you noticed the original iPhoto Library was in the Trash and you >>>>>>>>> then relocated that library to the correct location in Pictures >>>>>>>>> folder... did that iPhoto Library work correctly?... that is “Did it >>>>>>>>> show all your Photos, Albums etc? >>>>>>>>> I'm trying to find out if the corruption was BEFORE you updated to >>>>>>>>> Photos or AFTER. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If it was after I would suggest you try “Repairing the PHOTO >>>>>>>>> Library” - Photos Library.photoslibrary >>>>>>>>> 1. Hold the COMMAND and OPTION keys down and launch PHOTOS app >>>>>>>>> 2. You will receive a dialog window - Click “Repair” >>>>>>>>> and see ‘Repairing Library’ and a progress bar >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Let me know your results please. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 16 May 2015, at 8:52 am, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> A further piece of information on this. If i right mouse on either >>>>>>>>>> the iPhoto or Photos libraries and select "Open Package Contents" I >>>>>>>>>> can see the contents and the Masters folder which shows the >>>>>>>>>> Year/Month/Date hierarchy and in turn the JPG files within the >>>>>>>>>> bottom level folder, so they are there! It seems the mapping from >>>>>>>>>> the app front end for both iPhoto and Photos to the JPG files is >>>>>>>>>> 'broken'. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Note, I haven't tried to do anything more, just looked. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Pete >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 16 May 2015, at 7:59 am, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ronni,yes a typo on my part, see below corrected now with >>>>>>>>>>> underline for my input. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Pete >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 15 May 2015, at 11:20 pm, Ronni Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Peter, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I might have to take this ‘Offlist’ as I’m not too sure if you are >>>>>>>>>>>> giving me the correct information. >>>>>>>>>>>> Check what I’ve mentioned below and reply to the list please. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll send you a document ‘Offlist’ showing screenshots of my >>>>>>>>>>>> iPhoto Libraries BEFORE & AFTER Update/transition to Photos. >>>>>>>>>>>> And the Option Key open Photos App to ‘Choose Library’ FYI >>>>>>>>>>>> iPhoto Libraries before & After transition to Photos Libraries.pdf >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15 May 2015, at 5:53 pm, Peter Crisp >>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ronni, I am back home now so feedback now is first-hand off my >>>>>>>>>>>>> wife's MBP. Responses to questions inserted below. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pete. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 May 2015, at 4:44 pm, Ronni Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Peter, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just to clarify a few things before I suggest anything else. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On your wife’s MBP - In her Pictures Folder there is NOT a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> “iPhoto Library.photolibrary” Or "iPhoto Library”? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the Pictures folder there is an iPhoto.photolibrary of size >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 291.94GB >>>>>>>>>>>> Are you SURE iPhoto.photolibrary is correct - or is it iPhoto >>>>>>>>>>>> Library.photolibrary of size 291.94GB. Yes it is in fact "iPhoto >>>>>>>>>>>> Library.photolibrary". >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and there is a Photos Library.photoslibrary of size 292.84GB. >>>>>>>>>>>> That looks correct! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hold Down the Option key & keep it down as you click Photos to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> open and see the ‘Choose Library' dialog window. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Two options shown. Photos Library and iPhoto Library. >>>>>>>>>>>> Are you SURE - or are they named Photos Library.photoslibrary and >>>>>>>>>>>> iPhoto Library.photolibrary. Yes, it is as you say when holding >>>>>>>>>>>> Option whilst clicking Photos there are two listed libraries. >>>>>>>>>>>> "Photos Library.photoslibrary" and "iPhoto Library.photolibrary". >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If they are named as I mention above- that is correct… that is >>>>>>>>>>>> what you should see! >>>>>>>>>>>> Select 'Photos Library.photoslibrary' and click Choose Library >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The file sizes on the two Libraries indicate the update/transition >>>>>>>>>>>> has completed - you should be able to select ‘Photos >>>>>>>>>>>> Library.photoslibrary’ to open Photos with all your previous >>>>>>>>>>>> iPhoto photos & albums etc. Yes, I would have thought so too. I >>>>>>>>>>>> selected "Photos Library.photoslibrary" and no photos presented. >>>>>>>>>>>> When i click the triangle toggle for 'iPhoto Events', all of the >>>>>>>>>>>> Events folders dating back to 2004 as they used to present in >>>>>>>>>>>> iPhoto show as a greyed out icon beneath the 'iPhoto Events' >>>>>>>>>>>> header (about 200 of them). If I select any one of these greyed >>>>>>>>>>>> out event folders, i get an empty white panel to the right side. >>>>>>>>>>>> If I select 'All Photos', also no photos are shown. The photo >>>>>>>>>>>> images are not shown. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll send you the document in another email to you ‘Offlist’, but >>>>>>>>>>>> please post back to the list otherwise it is a consult fee. >>>>>>>>>>>> This has taken a lot of time trying to send & receive information >>>>>>>>>>>> through a third party is always difficult. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What shows there? Also what shows there if you click “Other >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Library”? Takes me to a browser window Pictures to select form >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same two Photos Library and iPhoto Library. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It seems as thought the transition/import of iPhoto Library has >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not fully completed. If it had, the next time you opened the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Photos.app everything would look similar/ but a bit different to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPhoto.app. I agree i think the two libraries are in a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> transitional state. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also if it had, you would have been able to double-click on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary and you would see this >>>>>>>>>>>>>> message “Your photo library has been migrated to Photos. You can >>>>>>>>>>>>>> open it in iPhoto, but any changes such as editing or adding new >>>>>>>>>>>>>> photos will not appear in the Photos app” and the 'Open Photos’ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> button would be BLUE for you to click. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Was the only iPhoto Library backup on the Time Machine >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sparsebundle that you deleted? Yes, the only iPhoto library >>>>>>>>>>>>>> backup was within the sparesebuydle I blew away, there is no >>>>>>>>>>>>>> backup. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would much prefer to know there is a backup.... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know the answers to above queries before I perhaps >>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest you try to Repair the Photos Library. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ronni > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
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