Hi Walter and all members who are confused how to migrate/import to Photos from iPhoto. Walter & Peter have not done it correctly. Walter the first time you open Photos you do not import any photos from the desktop, you are doing a transition/import of your complete iPhoto Library.
How to: Move your iPhoto or Aperture Library to Photos As you have previously been using iPhoto or Aperture on your Mac and iPhoto Library or Aperture Library is in the default location (User Home > Pictures folder) 1. When you first clicked on Photos app and the Welcome Screen appears, you should click on the Blue Box 'Get Started'. 2. If you were previously using iPhoto or Aperture, after clicking the 'Get Started', it searches your system and detects your iPhoto and Aperture libraries. Select which Library you want to use with Photos from the list Which (unless you changed the name of your iPhoto Library) will be 'iPhoto Library' 3. Once you select the library, it presents the option to set up iCloud Photo Library, (Apple's iCloud-based photo and video syncing and storage service. This will allow you to sync all the Photos from your Mac and iOS device to each of your other devices, keeping your edits and albums in sync.) At this stage, especially if you are not sure about putting ALL your pictures into iCloud Photo Library - I recommend you DON'T - (you can always set that up later under Photo's Preferences from the menu bar; it's optional and never required unless you want automatic, cloud-based syncing. 4. It then starts to Prepare your library to transition to Photos. Your old photo libraries will stay on your Mac if you decide you want to use iPhoto or Aperture (because it is more for Professional photographers & has more powerful editing tools and built-in support for external editors). However, if you make any changes in those libraries, they will NOT automatically sync over to your new Photos Library.... As I mentioned in my previous email below. Most of the data from iPhoto and Aperture will transfer to the Photos app. Faces is still the same. Also, if you were using star ratings, flags and color labels in iPhoto & Aperture, they are still around in Photos, but they are now Keywords and assigned to the photos. You'll notice your Events from your previous photo library is organised alongside albums in the new Photos app preserving your organisation. Hopefully this email and my previous emails to the list will help clear any confusion. On my own Macs and my clients Macs the transition has gone very smoothly and easy without any issues at all. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 > On 27 Apr 2015, at 12:22 pm, F.W. Hänel <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Ronni, > > On the same subject. > Have this morning installed the 10.10.3 software. > After I opened Photos it goes into a tutorial: “Welcome to Photos” I declined > iCloud sharing. > The sidebar shows Photos, but when I click on it there are no photos. I have > been able to successfully import 1 photo from the desktop > into Photos. > I can still see the photos on my TV via Apple TV. Do I have to manually > import all the photos ? > > Thanks, > > Cheers > Walter > > >> On 27 Apr 2015, at 11:50 , Severin Crisp <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Ronni, many thanks for that elegant explanation. You have saved me from a >> possible disaster - I had saved my iPhoto libraries in place, all 21 of them >> - and planned to trash them when all had seemed settled! >> Hope you can enjoy a sunny day without worrying about too many other >> people’s problems! >> Severin >> >>> On 27 Apr 2015, at 11:39 am, Ronni Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Oh Peter, >>> >>> I said I would get back to you when possible, I wish you had waited. I am >>> busy with Clients work and really don’t have time at present but reading >>> your email I decided to reply to try to explain quickly how the process >>> works. >>> >>> What you are now doing is Creating a NEW iPhoto Library (Duplicating all >>> the Media Files in iPhoto Library package)! >>> You are not understanding the iPhoto & Photos Directory structure... and >>> how ‘Hard Links’ work so there is no duplication or extra space required on >>> the system. >>> >>> The Transition/Import from iPhoto to Photos has to be done on your wife’s >>> MBP where the Library files are in the correct locations to link the two >>> libraries using ‘Hard Links’. >>> >>> Hard Facts about Hard Links >>> On import, Photos makes a Hard Link to all iPhoto media assets in its own >>> library package, using the same directory structure as iPhoto (The >>> libraries say they’re roughly the same size, but in fact, they’re sharing >>> disk space via hard links). >>> Think of hard links as a cousin of Finder aliases—rather than existing in >>> one place with an alias in a different location, files that are 'hard >>> linked' appear to live in two places at once, but only take up the space of >>> a single file. >>> >>> Your old library won't be converted, just imported, so you can still open >>> it in Aperture or iPhoto if you like (though once you import, if you do >>> anything new with that library in Aperture, it won't carry over to the >>> Photos version). >>> >>> So what happens if you edit one of those files? Something clever: if I edit >>> a file from a migrated iPhoto library in Photoshop, that version is >>> altered—but the version in the Photos library is untouched. >>> Basically, the act of modifying a hard-linked file causes the link to >>> break. Now there are two different files, both taking up disk space, living >>> independently. >>> For Mac users accustomed to the a-file-is-a-file approach of the Finder, >>> this one’s a bit of a head-scratcher, but it’s a smart move by Apple to >>> allow us to migrate to Photos without duplicating an entire library and >>> eating all of our free disk space—or worse, never bothering to upgrade to >>> Photos because we don’t have the room. >>> >>> The new Photos library references the same master images as your old >>> library, so you don't need the space to store images twice. It also makes >>> for an incredibly efficient migration process. >>> --- >>> But because of your initial (dare I say - stuffup) this hasn’t happened. >>> How to correct it?? I need more information - what is on your wife’s MBP. >>> From what I can ascertain from your emails - >>> A). On your wife's MBP in her User Home Folder > Pictures - there are >>> these two files "iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibary” and "Photos >>> Library.photoslibrary"… Is this correct? >>> B). And your wife's MBP only has ONE iPhoto Library on her system... is >>> this correct? >>> C). And when you try to open PHOTOS on her MBP it doesn’t open... is this >>> correct - or what happens? >>> >>> One suggestion I will make: >>> On her MBP - If she double-clicks on the "Photos Library.photoslibrary" >>> does it open in PHOTOS? >>> If NOT >>> Hold down the Option key as you open the PHOTOS app in the Dock to see the >>> 'Choose Library dialog' window. >>> Click 'Other Library' >>> Select the 'iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary' >>> See if that completes the ‘preparing for import’ >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ronni >>> >>> >>>> On 27 Apr 2015, at 6:26 am, [email protected] wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks Ronni. I think I've cracked it. I opened iPhoto with Option held >>>> and selected "Create New". I set a new location for the new database >>>> library file. Once that was set up, I then selected Import and pointed to >>>> the "transitioning" iPhoto Library that I've been unable to open up in the >>>> conventional way. So last night it was able to commence the import of the >>>> photos and i can see the images on screen as it counts down. The >>>> transitioning Library was ~250GB and I had no choice but to let it proceed >>>> when it asked "confirm you have enough disc space" - I had ~750GB free on >>>> my 2TB drive which at the time seemed enough. Once it had started, it said >>>> "Importing 335,000 photos"!!! I don't recall there ever being that many, >>>> however, it was still Importing this morning with 225,000 to go but only >>>> 250GB space left. I think it will run out of space at that rate.Oh well, I >>>> am not so worried about that, at least I have now got a way to access >>>> them. I will get myself another 2TB drive and when I am home will start >>>> the process again. I am somewhat puzzled though that it is now apparently >>>> much larger than it was. Perhaps there is a compression that can be done >>>> or maybe this is all a consequence of the process of how I've got into >>>> this pickle. >>>> >>>> Maybe there is still another method to properly unpick the library without >>>> resorting to an Import process. I am keen to hear if you or anyone else >>>> has encountered this and methods for unpicking the mess I've got myself >>>> into. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Pete. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> To: >>>> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>> Cc: >>>> >>>> Sent: >>>> Sun, 26 Apr 2015 17:53:44 +0800 >>>> Subject: >>>> Re: iPhoto to Photos migration >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Peter, >>>> >>>> I haven't got time tonight, but I will get back to your problem when >>>> possible. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Ronni >>>> >>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4 >>>> >>>> >>>> On 26 Apr 2015, at 4:20 pm, [email protected] wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ronni, yes I feel a real goose for the steps I took (in hindsight). >>>> >>>> As I work away (and am away from home for a further 2 odd weeks), I placed >>>> a copy of both (iPhoto and Photos) library files onto my 2TB external >>>> drive and using my Retina MBP to try and unpick this mess remotely from my >>>> Wifes MBP. A necessity as this happened the day prior to my departure. >>>> >>>> So i have the two files "iPhoto Library" and "Photos Library" both sitting >>>> within one folder on the external drive (each file is saying around 295GB >>>> from Get Info but not identical sizes). They are also still in place in >>>> the User>Photos folder on my Wife's MBP as I restored the iPhoto library >>>> from Trash using the "Put Back" command. >>>> >>>> When I attempt to open the iPhoto library (using the Option key method on >>>> my Retina), it reflects as iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary Which would >>>> suggest that the library underwent the start of its transformation in >>>> readiness to be 'hard linked' with the Photos library. But the >>>> transformation was never completed. >>>> >>>> I do not have a backup I can revert to at any stage prior to the update - >>>> coz I blew away the Sparesebundle! >>>> >>>> Pete. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> To: >>>> "WAMUG" <[email protected]> >>>> Cc: >>>> >>>> Sent: >>>> Sun, 26 Apr 2015 15:38:45 +0800 >>>> Subject: >>>> Re: iPhoto to Photos migration >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello Peter, >>>> >>>> Sounds like you have really messed up the transition/import of iPhoto >>>> Library to Photos... and then did a Time Machine backup BEFORE testing >>>> everything was working correctly.... >>>> >>>> The first time you launch Photos, it searches your system for iPhoto and >>>> Aperture libraries. If only one library fits the bill, it imports that >>>> library. Otherwise, it opens the Choose Library dialog window - Choose a >>>> library from the list, and Photos prepares the library for import. >>>> >>>> Photos needs to prepare your iPhoto Library before it imports into a new >>>> Photos library. >>>> When you import an iPhoto library into Photos, your existing library >>>> remains intact. The net result of the import is that you’ll have two >>>> separate libraries on your Mac’s drive: your old iPhoto library and a new >>>> Photos library >>>> >>>> The Import does NOT duplicate iPhoto Library but uses “Hard Links". Your >>>> iPhoto Library remains intact, BUT a new Photos Library comes into being. >>>> The Libraries say they’re roughly the same size, but in fact, they’re >>>> 'sharing disk space' via ‘hard links’. >>>> >>>> After the successful transition ‘Migration' from iPhoto to Photos you will >>>> have in your User > Pictures folder - 2 separate Libraries: >>>> "iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary” AND “Photos Library.photoslibrary" >>>> >>>> On 25 Apr 2015, at 9:30 am, [email protected] wrote: >>>> >>>> Last week I updated my wife's 2012 MBP to latest OSX which brought the new >>>> Photos application. I had done my own 2014 Retina MBP previously without >>>> issue and have all my images carried over into Photos without a hitch >>>> >>>> The issue with my Wife's machine is I did the update and am unable to see >>>> the images in Photos. I just get the intro screen with the 4 options for a >>>> new user. I've done the "Option" whilst starting it up and directed it to >>>> the new Photo Library file and still nothing. The Photo Library file shows >>>> in Get Info of 295GB so it would appear to be a file containing the >>>> picture and video files but how do I access it? >>>> >>>> An issue potentially caused by me was that after the update, I ran a >>>> cleaner (Cleanmymac) and it did some cleaning. I did in my travels after >>>> the cleaning notice in the Trash can was the old iPhoto Library!!! I >>>> assume this was an action of cleanmymac. So I selected "Put Back" and it >>>> in turn is now placed alongside the Photos Library in the default Apple >>>> folder location. >>>> >>>> It was only after this that I opened Photos for the first time and I >>>> suspect that upon first opening, it runs a script which does the migration >>>> (but not duplication) of image files. >>>> >>>> Oh goodness... Yes, that is correct. The first time Photos is opened (as >>>> I’ve mentioned above) the transition (Import from iPhoto) is run. >>>> But you are saying your wife’s iPhoto Library was not in the correct >>>> location in Pictures... but was sitting in the Trash! >>>> >>>> It gets worse - much worse I am afraid. >>>> >>>> I don’t want to read anymore :( >>>> >>>> During the update I turned Time Machine off to prevent unwanted backups >>>> during the process of updating. I think this is a recommended practice >>>> anyway. Well, after the dust settled (but before running Photos) I turned >>>> TM back on and it goes through the Preparing Backup routine for a looong >>>> while and then says Backing Up 325GB!!! I pressed the cross to stop that >>>> and thought about it a bit. Running low on TM disc space and having done >>>> this previously (and never once having had to call upon the TM backup to >>>> retrieve anything in the 6 years of Mac ownership) decided I would delete >>>> the Sparesebundle file and do a new Backup from scratch . I suspect that >>>> the Preparing Backup routine spotted the iPhoto Library in the Trash and >>>> the Photos library in its normal home and detected there are two libraries >>>> to back up hence the order of magnitude of the backup. >>>> >>>> Anyway, now that I am over this, I still have the problem where neither >>>> iPhoto nor Photos will open showing my wifes previous images. >>>> >>>> When I launch iPhoto - I get a message "Aperture needs updating" so when I >>>> try that, it says the version of Aperture required is not available in the >>>> Australian Apple Store - so no good there >>>> >>>> When I launch Photos - I get the first time user screen. If I select >>>> Albums, I see the greyed image of the previous Events folders as Albums >>>> and the names of Albums are accurate per the previous iPhotos Events >>>> folder, but upon opening, nothing is visible. Still no images. >>>> >>>> Whilst in hindsight some of my actions have been not very good, I still >>>> don't understand why I can get at my images/videos? >>>> >>>> Whilst in hindsight now ‘some’ but almost all your actions have not been >>>> good from what I can ascertain from your email :( >>>> >>>> Anyone have any ideas how to get out of this pickle? >>>> >>>> Let us now exactly what Library files you have in User > Pictures please - >>>> and also if you have a backup of your wife’s iPhoto Library BEFORE you >>>> did the Update to OS X 10.10.3? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Ronni >>>> >>>> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Intel Quad-Core i7 >>>> 2.3GHz / 16GB / 1TB 840 EVO SSD >>>> >>>> OS X Yosemite 10.10.3 >>>> >>>> Pete :(
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