Thanks Ronni, See below underlined for responses. Regards
Pete > On 16 May 2015, at 6:52 pm, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote: > > In the view menu of Photos be sure that the Sidebar is shown (View > Show > Sidebar) - iPhoto events have been converted into albums and are in the > albums sections in a folder named "iPhoto events". > Can you double-click on a 'greyed box' and see an image? Yes I tried this and > no images show, the header shows the Album folder name but no images. > I know you mentioned before you see a white box after you click. > Can you open any image under Albums in the Side? None of the iPhoto events > open any images, I tried about 6 or 8 of them at random. > > The thumbnails are damaged and Photos doesn't have a specific First Aid > procedure to Rebuild Thumbnails like iPhoto does. > > Something worth doing is - Boot the MBP into Recovery Volume (Command + R > keys down). Select Disk Utility and 'Repair Disk Permissions' and 'Repair > Disk'. > Reboot normally and try Photos again. I tried this and then reboot and open > Photos - still no joy, all as it was prior. I was contemplating a third party photo manger like Picasa or Lyn. I know in theory the iPhoto and Photos pair of apps is a good thing and cleverly cross mapped and I am in this pickle due to my own actions, but given the intended use of the photos for my wife (she doesn't edit, just wants to keep a record for posterity and have an easy to use program for viewing her pics and occasional emailing of one or two), the photos are all nicely configured in Year/Month/Day folders, does it really matter what front end to view them with? She certainly has no desire to have two photo viewing programs (iPhoto and Photos) I know that might be defeatist in reaching a point like this, but I don't want to waste any more of your time given the fairly exhaustive lengths gone to so far. I haven't done this yet,merely contemplating. > > I'll send you 'off-list' a screenshot of my opened Photos showing Albums - > All Photos -Faces etc FYI. > > Cheers, > Ronni > > Sent from Ronni's iPad4 > > >> On 16 May 2015, at 2:16 pm, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Ok see below. >> >> Regards >> >> >> Pete >> >>> On 16 May 2015, at 1:37 pm, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Can you open iPhoto from the Dock with the Option Key held down and see the >>> dialog window... "Which Photo Library do you want iPhoto to use" >>> What Libraries show there?... iPhoto Library - if so click 'choose'. Yes, >>> the iPhoto library shows there (the only choice), when I choose I get the >>> dialogue back which says "Aperture library needs to be upgraded". >>> >>> In the Pictures folder do you have "Aperture Library.aplibrary" >>> If so what version is it? No, there is no Aperture library in the Pictures >>> folder. I've not installed Aperture on any of our 5 MBP's. >>> >>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4 >>> >>> >>>> On 16 May 2015, at 12:28 pm, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Ok, yes I appreciate this is not simple by emails. Responses underlined. >>>> >>>> See below. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> Pete >>>> >>>>> On 16 May 2015, at 11:56 am, Ronni Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Without knowing exactly what you did and the order in which you did >>>>> things, fixing this is really hard work not being able to physically >>>>> check your computer. >>>>> >>>>>> I have run the Repair Photos library as you've suggested here and it >>>>>> runs through to 100%. Still same status with no photos showing after >>>>>> that, old iPhoto events list still showing all greyed out. >>>>> You Quit Photos.app after it completed the Repair & then relaunched >>>>> Photos App normally (from the Dock)? Yes, I did this and same result, no >>>>> photos showing. >>>>> >>>>> Do you have iPhoto.app in the Dock? If not place it in the Dock and try >>>>> this: Yes, I put it back there onto the Dock now. >>>>> >>>>> 1. Launch iPhoto App (from the dock) with COMMAND + OPTION keys held down >>>>> This will bring up 'iPhoto Library First Aid’ panel >>>>> 2. Select ‘Repair Permissions’ >>>>> 3. Click ‘Repair’ >>>>> Then Quit iPhoto >>>> >>>> I tried steps above and iPhoto does not open, I get the dialogue box which >>>> says "Aperture library needs to be upgraded". >>>>> >>>>> 4. Launch iPhoto App (from the dock) with COMMAND + OPTION keys held down >>>>> again >>>>> 5. Select ‘Repair Database’ >>>>> 6. Click ‘Repair’ >>>>> Then Quit iPhoto >>>> >>>> Same as above, "Aperture library needs to be upgraded". >>>>> >>>>> See if you can then launch iPhoto normally and see all your photos. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ronni >>>>> >>>>>> On 16 May 2015, at 11:09 am, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Ever since the update to OSX, iPhoto hasn't worked - I have just been >>>>>> presented with the message "Aperture library needs to be upgraded". >>>>>> >>>>>> I believe it was the cleaner app which placed the iPhoto library in the >>>>>> Trash but from over 3 weeks ago I can't recall if that cleaning >>>>>> operation was before or after doing the OSX update - if I was to guess I >>>>>> would say I ran the cleaner app after the OSX update. If the cleaning >>>>>> was run before OSX update (and the iPhoto library was in Trash while the >>>>>> OSX update ran), perhaps this is the reason. What if I did a trial and >>>>>> placed the iPhoto library back in Trash (without emptying naturally) and >>>>>> then tested the operation of iPhoto and Photos? If the mapping for >>>>>> Photos (with its intelligent cross mapping with iPhoto) was established >>>>>> with the iPhoto library in Trash, that may account for the 'broken' >>>>>> front end to back end connection as the locations of the files in the >>>>>> mapping table is wrong? >>>>>> >>>>>> I have run the Repair Photos library as you've suggested here and it >>>>>> runs through to 100%. Still same status with no photos showing after >>>>>> that, old iPhoto events list still showing all greyed out. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Pete >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 16 May 2015, at 9:20 am, Ronni Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok Peter, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As I mentioned previously The file sizes on the two Libraries indicate >>>>>>> the update/transition has completed... but there is some damage or >>>>>>> corruption. >>>>>>> When you noticed the original iPhoto Library was in the Trash and you >>>>>>> then relocated that library to the correct location in Pictures >>>>>>> folder... did that iPhoto Library work correctly?... that is “Did it >>>>>>> show all your Photos, Albums etc? >>>>>>> I'm trying to find out if the corruption was BEFORE you updated to >>>>>>> Photos or AFTER. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If it was after I would suggest you try “Repairing the PHOTO Library” >>>>>>> - Photos Library.photoslibrary >>>>>>> 1. Hold the COMMAND and OPTION keys down and launch PHOTOS app >>>>>>> 2. You will receive a dialog window - Click “Repair” >>>>>>> and see ‘Repairing Library’ and a progress bar >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Let me know your results please. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 16 May 2015, at 8:52 am, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A further piece of information on this. If i right mouse on either the >>>>>>>> iPhoto or Photos libraries and select "Open Package Contents" I can >>>>>>>> see the contents and the Masters folder which shows the >>>>>>>> Year/Month/Date hierarchy and in turn the JPG files within the bottom >>>>>>>> level folder, so they are there! It seems the mapping from the app >>>>>>>> front end for both iPhoto and Photos to the JPG files is 'broken'. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Note, I haven't tried to do anything more, just looked. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pete >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 16 May 2015, at 7:59 am, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Ronni,yes a typo on my part, see below corrected now with >>>>>>>>> underline for my input. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pete >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 15 May 2015, at 11:20 pm, Ronni Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Peter, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I might have to take this ‘Offlist’ as I’m not too sure if you are >>>>>>>>>> giving me the correct information. >>>>>>>>>> Check what I’ve mentioned below and reply to the list please. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I’ll send you a document ‘Offlist’ showing screenshots of my iPhoto >>>>>>>>>> Libraries BEFORE & AFTER Update/transition to Photos. >>>>>>>>>> And the Option Key open Photos App to ‘Choose Library’ FYI >>>>>>>>>> iPhoto Libraries before & After transition to Photos Libraries.pdf >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 15 May 2015, at 5:53 pm, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ronni, I am back home now so feedback now is first-hand off my >>>>>>>>>>> wife's MBP. Responses to questions inserted below. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Pete. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 May 2015, at 4:44 pm, Ronni Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Peter, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Just to clarify a few things before I suggest anything else. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On your wife’s MBP - In her Pictures Folder there is NOT a “iPhoto >>>>>>>>>>>> Library.photolibrary” Or "iPhoto Library”? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In the Pictures folder there is an iPhoto.photolibrary of size >>>>>>>>>>>> 291.94GB >>>>>>>>>> Are you SURE iPhoto.photolibrary is correct - or is it iPhoto >>>>>>>>>> Library.photolibrary of size 291.94GB. Yes it is in fact "iPhoto >>>>>>>>>> Library.photolibrary". >>>>>>>>>>>> and there is a Photos Library.photoslibrary of size 292.84GB. >>>>>>>>>> That looks correct! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hold Down the Option key & keep it down as you click Photos to >>>>>>>>>>>> open and see the ‘Choose Library' dialog window. >>>>>>>>>>>> Two options shown. Photos Library and iPhoto Library. >>>>>>>>>> Are you SURE - or are they named Photos Library.photoslibrary and >>>>>>>>>> iPhoto Library.photolibrary. Yes, it is as you say when holding >>>>>>>>>> Option whilst clicking Photos there are two listed libraries. >>>>>>>>>> "Photos Library.photoslibrary" and "iPhoto Library.photolibrary". >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If they are named as I mention above- that is correct… that is what >>>>>>>>>> you should see! >>>>>>>>>> Select 'Photos Library.photoslibrary' and click Choose Library >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The file sizes on the two Libraries indicate the update/transition >>>>>>>>>> has completed - you should be able to select ‘Photos >>>>>>>>>> Library.photoslibrary’ to open Photos with all your previous iPhoto >>>>>>>>>> photos & albums etc. Yes, I would have thought so too. I selected >>>>>>>>>> "Photos Library.photoslibrary" and no photos presented. When i click >>>>>>>>>> the triangle toggle for 'iPhoto Events', all of the Events folders >>>>>>>>>> dating back to 2004 as they used to present in iPhoto show as a >>>>>>>>>> greyed out icon beneath the 'iPhoto Events' header (about 200 of >>>>>>>>>> them). If I select any one of these greyed out event folders, i get >>>>>>>>>> an empty white panel to the right side. If I select 'All Photos', >>>>>>>>>> also no photos are shown. The photo images are not shown. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I’ll send you the document in another email to you ‘Offlist’, but >>>>>>>>>> please post back to the list otherwise it is a consult fee. >>>>>>>>>> This has taken a lot of time trying to send & receive information >>>>>>>>>> through a third party is always difficult. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> What shows there? Also what shows there if you click “Other >>>>>>>>>>>> Library”? Takes me to a browser window Pictures to select form the >>>>>>>>>>>> same two Photos Library and iPhoto Library. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It seems as thought the transition/import of iPhoto Library has >>>>>>>>>>>> not fully completed. If it had, the next time you opened the >>>>>>>>>>>> Photos.app everything would look similar/ but a bit different to >>>>>>>>>>>> iPhoto.app. I agree i think the two libraries are in a >>>>>>>>>>>> transitional state. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Also if it had, you would have been able to double-click on iPhoto >>>>>>>>>>>> Library.migratedphotolibrary and you would see this message “Your >>>>>>>>>>>> photo library has been migrated to Photos. You can open it in >>>>>>>>>>>> iPhoto, but any changes such as editing or adding new photos will >>>>>>>>>>>> not appear in the Photos app” and the 'Open Photos’ button would >>>>>>>>>>>> be BLUE for you to click. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Was the only iPhoto Library backup on the Time Machine >>>>>>>>>>>> sparsebundle that you deleted? Yes, the only iPhoto library backup >>>>>>>>>>>> was within the sparesebuydle I blew away, there is no backup. >>>>>>>>>>>> I would much prefer to know there is a backup.... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know the answers to above queries before I perhaps suggest >>>>>>>>>>>> you try to Repair the Photos Library. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>> Ronni > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
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