Hi all.

She has Time Machine running because I set it up for her a while back.
So might try to find iPhoto Library on that this morning.

> On 9 May 2018, at 7:46 am, Alan Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Stephen
> 
> I sent a reply in error from my iPad which is probably not relevant.  My 
> advice is to do nothing for a few days. 
> 
> On my recent macOS upgrade from Mavericks the Photos app did not 
> automatically install.  It had been in the incompatible update list for 
> “years” (with pages, etc).  It then became available to download for about 
> two days after High Sierra was installed, then it disappeared. These 
> “missing” incompatible apps can be downloaded  - and will even possible 
> return to the automatic “software updates available" list in another few days.
> 
> I also had a notification to install the final release of iPhotos which give 
> the additional coding needed for migration to Photos.
> 
> Cheers
> Alan
> 
>> On 8 May 2018, at 11:49 pm, Daniel Kerr <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Stephen
>> 
>> The first thing I would do before doing anything else, is to make sure there 
>> is a backup! The second thing I would do,…is make sure there is a backup!!
>> Have a search for “photo” and see if anything turns up (e.g. iPhoto, Photos, 
>> Photos Library, iPhotos Library. (also look in the Trash).
>> Just incase any of them have been moved to different locations.
>> This may then help narrow it down for the reminder of the things.
>> 
>> I’d be a bit “cautious’ of re-installing an OS install there without knowing 
>> which one it is (e.g. Mavericks was 10.9, Yosemite 10.10, El Capitan 10.11, 
>> Sierra 10.12 and of course High Sierra 10.13).
>> (And for those playing along 10.0 was Cheetah, 10.1 was Puma , 10.2 Was 
>> Jaguar, 10.3 was Panther, 10.4 was Tiger, 10.5 was Leopard, 10.6 was Snow 
>> Leopard, 10.7 was Lion, and 10.8 was Mountain Lion - and I didn’t even have 
>> to go look that up,….lol).
>> 
>> If you are running 10.9.5, you could try the last patch Combo installer 
>> again. This may get the iPhoto back (though sometimes if it’s not there it 
>> won’t “update” it).
>> You can get the full Combo update here - https://support.apple.com/kb/dl1760
>> 
>> But without seeing the machine, or a bit more info I’d be a bit cautious of 
>> which steps to take, as obviously wouldn’t want to do anything to make it 
>> “worse”.
>> 
>> Hope something there helps.
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> 
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>>> On 8 May 2018, at 11:08 pm, Stephen Chape <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you Ronni and Peter.
>>> The issue here is that I cannot find Photos in the Applications folder.
>>> I also cannot find iPhoto Library in the Pictures folder.
>>> 
>>> I will have to take another look, but I am pretty sure the OS installed is 
>>> 10.9.5
>>> And when I clicked on Software Update it said already updated.
>>> I also think I saw a downloaded OS updater sitting in her Applications 
>>> folder.
>>> What might happen if I run that updater again ?
>>> 
>>> Gee … this is hard being half an hour from where this Mac is located.
>>> I may go back there tomorrow for another look.
>>> 
>>>> On 8 May 2018, at 9:57 pm, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, you have a good memory there Ronni. I remember that time when I got 
>>>> it messed up and with your help got it sorted.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Pete
>>>> 
>>>> On 8 May 2018, at 8:31 pm, Ronni Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Stephen & Peter,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Photos was introduced in OS X Yosemite 10.10.3 software update? What 
>>>>> version of OS X did she just upgrade to High Sierra? 
>>>>> ------
>>>>> Her iPhoto Library will still be in the default location (User Home > 
>>>>> Pictures folder)
>>>>> 
>>>>> I posted to WAMUG on 27 April 2015 4:29pm Subject: Re: iPhoto to Photos 
>>>>> migration, after Walter and Peter did not do it correctly.
>>>>> I’ve copied my email below:
>>>>> —
>>>>> Hi Walter and all members who are confused how to migrate/import to 
>>>>> Photos from iPhoto. Walter & Peter have not done it correctly.
>>>>> Walter the first time you open Photos you do not import any photos from 
>>>>> the desktop, you are doing a transition/import of your complete iPhoto 
>>>>> Library.
>>>>> 
>>>>> How to: Move your iPhoto or Aperture Library to Photos
>>>>> 
>>>>> As you have previously been using iPhoto or Aperture on your Mac and 
>>>>> iPhoto Library or Aperture Library is in the default location (User Home 
>>>>> > Pictures folder)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. When you first clicked on Photos app and the Welcome Screen appears, 
>>>>> you should click on the Blue Box 'Get Started'.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2. If you were previously using iPhoto or Aperture, after clicking the 
>>>>> 'Get Started', it searches your system and detects your iPhoto and 
>>>>> Aperture libraries.
>>>>> Select which Library you want to use with Photos from the list
>>>>> Which (unless you changed the name of your iPhoto Library) will be 
>>>>> 'iPhoto Library'
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3. Once you select the library, it presents the option to set up iCloud 
>>>>> Photo Library, (Apple's iCloud-based photo and video syncing and storage 
>>>>> service. This will allow you to sync all the Photos from your Mac and iOS 
>>>>> device to each of your other devices, keeping your edits and albums in 
>>>>> sync.)
>>>>> At this stage, especially if you are not sure about putting ALL your 
>>>>> pictures into iCloud Photo Library - I recommend you DON'T - (you can 
>>>>> always set that up later under Photo's Preferences from the menu bar; 
>>>>> it's optional and never required unless you want automatic, cloud-based 
>>>>> syncing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 4. It then starts to Prepare your library to transition to Photos.
>>>>> Your old photo libraries will stay on your Mac if you decide you want to 
>>>>> use iPhoto or Aperture (because it is more for Professional photographers 
>>>>> & has more powerful editing tools and built-in support for external 
>>>>> editors).
>>>>> However, if you make any changes in those libraries, they will NOT 
>>>>> automatically sync over to your new Photos Library.... As I mentioned in 
>>>>> my previous email below.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Most of the data from iPhoto and Aperture will transfer to the Photos 
>>>>> app. Faces is still the same. Also, if you were using star ratings, flags 
>>>>> and color labels in iPhoto & Aperture, they are still around in Photos, 
>>>>> but they are now Keywords and assigned to the photos. You'll notice your 
>>>>> Events from your previous photo library is organised alongside albums in 
>>>>> the new Photos app preserving your organisation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hopefully this email and my previous emails to the list will help clear 
>>>>> any confusion.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On my own Macs and my clients Macs the transition has gone very smoothly 
>>>>> and easy without any issues at all.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Ronni
>>>>> 
>>>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>>>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>>>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>>>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>>>>> 
>>>>> macOS High Sierra 10.13.4
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8 May 2018, at 7:41 pm, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Stephen, my recollection of the upgrade from iPhoto to Photos is 
>>>>>> commenced when the User selects Photos for the first time after the OSX 
>>>>>> upgrade. The on screen questions will be self explanatory from there. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Pete
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8 May 2018, at 6:22 pm, Stephen Chape <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you once again Ronni.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I visited my daughter today and carried out your suggestions.
>>>>>>> All works perfectly now.
>>>>>>> I reckon the crucial thing was removing Gumtree data.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> However whilst I was there I noticed she had upgraded to High Sierra 3 
>>>>>>> days ago.
>>>>>>> I had previously advised her not to do this because her iMac is 2010 
>>>>>>> and her internet speed is terrible.
>>>>>>> I asked her about it and she said “might have been something I clicked 
>>>>>>> on”.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But I noticed that she still had iPhoto in the Dock.
>>>>>>> When I clicked on iPhoto it was not able to find the Library.
>>>>>>> So I looked for Photos in the Applications folder …. NOT THERE !
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Shouldn’t the upgrade have installed Photos and replaced iPhoto ?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 4 May 2018, at 1:24 pm, Ronni Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Bit of a tricky issue, especially when none of us are experiencing the 
>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>> I don’t know what OS or version of Safari your daughter is running.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Make sure that "private browsing” is turned off on Safari  
>>>>>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-au/KM204854?cid=acs::applesearch>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Safari 11.1
>>>>>>>> Check Safari Preferences:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Security - Web content:  ✔Enable JavaScript is selected and Block 
>>>>>>>> pop-up windows is NOT selected
>>>>>>>> Privacy - Cookies and website data: Block all cookies (is NOT selected)
>>>>>>>> Extensions - if  AdBlock is installed - disable it to test for 
>>>>>>>> Gumtree. And disable other extensions that could be causing the issue. 
>>>>>>>> You can turn them back on after testing if required.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You definitely removed data related to the Gumtree website?
>>>>>>>> 1. Choose Safari > Preferences.
>>>>>>>> 2. Click the Privacy icon.
>>>>>>>> 3. Click the ‘Manage Website Data’ button
>>>>>>>> 4. Search for the name the website ‘gumtree’ whose data you want to 
>>>>>>>> remove.
>>>>>>>> 5. In the results list, click the domain  gumtree.com.au  that has 
>>>>>>>> data you want to remove.
>>>>>>>> 6. Click Remove All.
>>>>>>>> When you're finished, click Done and close the preferences window.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Note: You will need all login details for your daughter’s access to 
>>>>>>>> her gumtree account.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> When finished Quit Safari - then Open Safari and test the 
>>>>>>>> gumtree.com.au 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Ronni
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 4 May 2018, at 10:52 am, Stephen Chape <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Ronni.
>>>>>>>>> Any ideas what I should look for in Safari please ?
>>>>>>>>> I will probably go to her place in next few days.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 2 May 2018, at 3:13 pm, Stephen Chape <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ronni.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Just got word back that Gumtree works fine with Chrome.
>>>>>>>>>> So looks like Safari requires attention ?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 29 Apr 2018, at 3:31 pm, Stephen Chape <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry Ronni.
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes I did that.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I am half hour away from her place.
>>>>>>>>>>> So I have asked her to try using Chrome and let me know what 
>>>>>>>>>>> happens.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29 Apr 2018, at 12:12 pm, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> But did you Clear the cache and remove cookies first?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Quit Safari after clearing the cache file & cookies for the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> gumtree website.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ronni
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPhone 7 Plus
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29 Apr 2018, at 9:44 am, Stephen Chape <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ronni.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is Safari.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tried Login as user.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tried browsing without login.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same result.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think her son has Chrome installed so will try that and report 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> back.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29 Apr 2018, at 7:40 am, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What web browser is this happening on, Firefox or Safari?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ask her to try access Gumtree & login on another web browser?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clear the cache and remove cookies from the website that is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> causing the problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your daughter would need to enter her login details again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cdn.districtm.io could be associated with handling Gumtree 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transactions?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://cdn.districtm.io.w3snoop.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ronni
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 28 Apr 2018, at 1:36 pm, Stephen Chape <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A couple of weeks ago my daughter had trouble accessing Gumtree.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did not matter if she tried to log in or just tried as a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browser.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Each time she tried she was re-directed to this website: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cdn.districtm.io
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no trouble using my iMac when logging in to Gumtree.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have scanned her iMac using MalwareBytes but nothing comes up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But now she tells me every time she goes to Gumtree she 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> finishes up with a blank white screen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even just using www.gumtree.com.au she gets the same thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas please folks ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have tried Googling cdn.districtm.io but have not really 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> learnt anything ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen Chape
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>> 
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