On 10 Aug 98, at 23:44, Luana Howard wrote:

> After freelancing for three years and using iServer for the
> months, I'm trying to explain to a manager why we Web Developers need
> "near" superuser privileges. Because I've had so much freedom over the
> years, I admit, my opinion may be biased. It can be a bit frustrating to
> have to find an SA who must log in as root to change simple things like
> directory and file permissions, or even configure servers so we can
> complete our tasks.
> 
> Can anyone share what duties you could (or even prefer to) perform
> yourself as a full-time Web Developer and employee in similar situations?
> I would like to use the job duties of fellow Web developers when we plead
> our case.

What "plead our case" are you talking about?

But you should understand how different iserver is.

Iserver has created something really unique.  And don't listen to the 
unix gurus who say they understand it and can duplicate it. I have 
gone that road and it always turns out that these so-called gurus 
really have no clue what iserver really does because they cannot 
replicate it -- and I went so far as to move on of my domains to 
someone who said they could.

I have never seen any other setup as I have seen at iserver.  When a 
user logs in he is in his root directory. AND there is virtually no 
difference between that and if he had logged into his VERY own box.  

But don't expect most people to understand what this means. Most 
people on this list or working on the web will have no idea what this 
means.  

I just got off the phone with a webmaster at a fortune company.  He 
wanted to know what version of webtrends I was using.  Why I asked?  
Well other host companies that they were using could not show him 
referer links, keywords etc.  The other host company thought it was 
the "software".  Uhhh... no, I told him it was how I configured the 
server.  Since I control the conf files I told it to write a custom 
log that would work well with webtrends.

But .. I manage websites on another server that is not iserver.  
There are multiple domains on this server and multiple users log in.  
I did not set it up.  One server serves all the domains.  I must go 
in as su or become another user when I want to do things.

But most so-called webmasters etc have no clue what is involved.  The 
term "command-line" does not even mean anything to a lot of IS people 
I talk to. I tell them that I need a command-line to work and they 
don't know what I am talking about, less why I need it.

Peter










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