> > one of my favorite tricks was to swing my monitor around and ask the
> > candidates for webmaster to take me to their demo site.   me being a
> > geek-luddite, my standard browser settings are no Java, no Javascript,
> > and no automatic image loading.
> > 
> > since i'm also a rank bastard, i never bothered to mention that fact.
> 
>   BRAVO!!!

Very, very nasty -- I love it. Also a good idea, as someone 
mentioned, to get clients to try that on the fancy sites with the all-
dancing automation and massive graphics.
 
We have a telecom/Web oriented business organisation who 
announced a competition to judge the best Web sites in the 
country. Their announcement page was a big yellow blob -- and 
these were the guys judging us?? I was vaguely considering joining 
it as one of the few professional groups we have in this area (both 
business and regionally) but that put me right off. I don't see them 
as having much credibility in the Web area as a consequence, and 
of course first impressions are hard to shake...

>     I just won another battle today with a client who wanted "a bit" of
> graphics on top.  He said it looked great, etc. etc.

It's really bad when you deal with publishers as they want control 
down to the pica level. We spent about three months in 
discussions with one editor getting across the idea of the impact of 
screens, browsers etc. It wasn't until she'd been through that 
process and then had to talk to others on her production staff that 
she realised just how intransigent she'd been. (And no, it wouldn't 
usually take us that long but she's 12,000 miles away and the 
discussion was held in between mag production, conference 
attending etc.)

We spent a lot of time trying to figure out why she apparently had a 
wrapping problem with a search form -- nothing we did made it 
reproduce the "dropped box" problem she described. It wasn't until 
she'd faxed us a copy of the offending page that we figured out she 
was talking about the top of the actual form boxes not lining up 
exactly with the text next to it. 
 
>      I told him to hit the refresh button and started counting... fifteen
> seconds.

Our major telecommunications company here launched their fancy 
Xtra Web service with a home page graphic that took 3 minutes 43 
seconds to load the day we tried it, with no alternative navigation 
whatsoever. No, we don't tend to recommend them to clients 
looking for ISPs...

Cheers,
Vicki
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