On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 4:27 PM, rev <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Yarko, > > > I should clarify - I threw away a quite angry response to rev's post > I *sincerely* apologize that my post caused you to become angry. > That definitely was not my intention.
Hey! No problem - You're not responsible for my feelings, and I believed it wasn't intentional, malicious - thanks for your apology, but ... I think none needed, really. Your willingness to offer one appreciated. > ... > *That* was my concern, and I expressed it. Got it - thanks. > > He suggested a (!) J2EE wiki (gag!); > Yes, one of my suggestions was Confluence, which is written in Java, > and I still defend it. > You can't discard a product solely because it's written in a language > you don't like. > Mmmm, appreciate you stand behind it - "you don't like it..." I dont' think I said anything like this - I think you own this thought, "Yarko don't like java..." ... actually, I can point you to a few papers, but that's another discussion... and has nothing to do with why I think that's not a good suggestion here. Confluence would be a distraction - it is not the language of web2py and because of the docutils formatting, and sphinx... direction we've decided on, someone would need to then write a module in java to do that rendering... distraction. Might as well put the effort into web2py implementation (at least its the same language we're doing all this in). As it is, we have a lot of "complexity" to deal with - CSS, javascript / jquery... SQL-Like thinking of DAL... as it is, our minds already have to operate in 4 "language-types".... don't want another. .... > It looks like I'm continuing with web2py, so I might be around for a > while. > Please, from now on, judge me from my posts and efforts to give back > to the project. > > Cheers, > rev Thank you, and welcome. And certainly, I will avoid judging you - judging the content of posts (like looking for bugs in code!) is what I'll always look at; when something bothers me, when I think there is a reason I say so. Understanding motivations (e.g. "why did someone ask this question? is there missing information or content that is important?") is also a natural part of this. Your end of the bargain is clarity, and (I would suggest) speaking for yourself - "_I'd_ like to see you guys check out Confluence because..." as compared to "Why are _you_ guys wasting time..." is an example. If you think it's not important, then look at what happens when its repeated too much in the "you" instead of "I". The systemic reason is by focusing on what I think, I leave the door open to what others think, and that is conducive to exchange of ideas. And that's the whole point of open source. Sorry if this felt too rough. It was in response to "focus, waste time, ..." etc. which also felt rough, so that is my point. No roadblocks, as I see. Again, welcome - looking forward to your participation, thoughts, and insights. Kind regards, Yarko > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py Web Framework" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
