To say that I really feel sorry that the book didn't prove to be of much use to you would be an understatement. How I wish it were within my capacity to refund the money to all those who bought the book and didn't like it! :(
As for 'Pro' , I didn't pick the title. The publisher's interpretation seems to be a little different. I'm not really at fault here. May be I should have read - 'Tapestry in Action' / 'JSF In action'. Also, its important to realize that the possibilities are endless with Wicket and there is this dreaded thing called a 'deadline'. Plus writing a book on a beta (Wicket was 1.2 beta then) product is not easy either. On the brighter side, "Wicket in Action" will be here! and I do get emails from readers thanking me for introducing them to this excellent framework! . I think that's great for the community. > P.S.: There are quite a lot of typos and inconsistencies in the beta > version I read. I guess that has changed or will change soon... Yes, I have passed on the corrections to the publisher. - Karthik On 9/14/06, Che Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, > > I have to agree with Gavin: the book is indeed a bit rough. > For example, the auther takes loads of time to elaborate certain > 'features' while others are being handled as if he expects the audience > to know what he is talking about. > The examples are imo completely useless in real life since they > sometimes violate DRY and are all a little too much meant as an example. > This is another weak point: the auther prints pages of source that you > go through and finally understand (since his explanations are sometimes > not really to the point) just to find a sentence at the end going: > "Well, this is not really nice, why don't we do this instead!". And > there come another couple of pages of source. > The information you get from the book also does not help you to develop > nice applications: I really had to get used to the new way of writing > web apps with wicket. If you are an experienced J2EE developer you need > the information presented in a way that does not tell you how to solve a > certain problem (THAT I can always find on the internet) but how do > DESIGN and COMPOSE your application. > It feels like the author DOES have a profound knowledge of wicket. He > just does not really know how to pass it on to the audience and how much > background he can expect from the readers. > > That said I must admit that it is a decent introductory book, especially > since there is nothing like it anywhere on the web. Many of the > questions that come up here are actually being answered in the book. > Don't get confused by the title, though: it is definitely not 'Pro' > Wicket! > > //Che > > P.S.: There are quite a lot of typos and inconsistencies in the beta > version I read. I guess that has changed or will change soon... > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gavin > > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 1:32 AM > > To: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: [Wicket-user] Pro Wicket: Great first book on wicket > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I have been looking at wicket for some time. I found it after > > looking at > > many other frameworks (Struts, Spring, WebWork, etc). Wicket > > seemed to be > > the best suited to my needs (more java focused with great components). > > Although, technically, it had one the web framework race for me, its > > documentation was minimal to non-existent (esp high level non > > api docs). > > > > Now there is finally a book that addresses this issue. > > APress will be publishing Pro Wicket > > (http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10189) > > I bought the beta e-book online (US$20) and it is very good. > > So a big thanks > > to Karthik Gurumurthy. > > > > The book is almost complete (although a little rough and > > could use some more > > editing). It covers the Wicket basics very well, explaining why you do > > things (which is often more important than how). > > > > Chapters cover: > > - setting up wicket (quick start) > > - validation > > - layout > > - integration with spring, velocity > > - localization > > - components (and wicket extensions) > > - ajax > > - unit testing > > and even wicket 2 > > > > Pro: > > - Easy to read > > - Great coverage of Wicket > > - Addresses the why as well as the how > > - Covers advanced topics like unit testing, integration with other > > frameworks, wicket 2 > > > > Cons: > > - Still a little rough (some needless repetition, references to tomcat > > instead of jetty) > > - Although the spring integration was interesting, there was > > a little too > > much of it > > - Some key code was not in bold. The bold really helped me find the > > important line so when it was not there I really missed it. > > > > So, if you are using wicket (or plan to or even using > > something like struts > > and want to know what the fun, easy alternative is) get wicket and Pro > > Wicket. > > Note: There is also a sample chapter that can be downloaded free. > > > > Now all I have to do is find time to play with Wicket... > > > > You can see some other comments at on Pro Wicket at > > https://chillenious.wordpress.com/2006/08/18/beta-ebook-pro-wi > cket-available/ > > > > PS: > > Wicket in Action is supposed to be in the works so that would > > make 2 great > > wicket books. 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