Hi Fabiana (*et al*)
At one level storage is cheap in that "abandoned" pages, or pages with no
content don't consume storage or bandwidth ;-). One of WikiEducator's
features is that we provide free training in a live Wiki community -- the
downside is many abandoned practice pages that should ideally be deleted in
the wiki.
As a community we need to get better with our wiki gardening and maintenance
of our collective work. A few thoughts:
- I agree -- I don't think the {{WIP}} template is a good solution.
Clearly there are many pages which are practice pages, or pages which are
unlikely to be developed over time.
- We need to provide training and support for community members -- for
some time I've been thinking about a community-support training course,
using the Learning4Content model to help members acquire the knowledge and
skills for these kind of community admin tasks. When can pages be deleted,
how page deletions are requested, community service projects etc. I would
imaging there are many Wikieducators who aren't clear about what to do.
- From a strategic perspective -- as mainstream adoption of OER within
formal education institutions starts increasing, we need to think creatively
about ways in which we can co-ordinate and help formal education
institutions participate while deriving immediate benefits from their
participation. Can you imagine the impact of OER around the world if every
institution were to donate 1 full-time equivalent staff member to OER
support and development.
Good thoughts and we should definitely add these to our WE new year
resolutions :-)
Wayne
On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Fabiana Kubke <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi all, and thanks for your comments.
>
> I have a personal philosophy of not 'modifying' user pages, other than
> adding comments - I may be old fashioned, but I think that user pages
> 'belong' to the users themselves.
>
> I was mainly thinking about 'content' (project?) pages.
>
> I thought about using the {{WIP}} for abandoned projects, but for example
> all of the pages I am working on have a {{WIP}} mainly to indicate that
> there will be frequent changes (if someone wants to use it in their class,
> they should link either to specific versions or be aware that by the time a
> student gets to it the page might be quite different).
>
> To me this is different than 'abandoned', in the sense that there are a few
> headings, no content and no activity for a while. But as I go about I find
> pages where deleting might not be necessarily a good idea because I can see
> the value of someone picking up and building the content.
>
> Perhaps the {{stub}} is a good option, and hope that someone picks it up? I
> would suggest that a link to all stub pages be placed in the main page under
> the *Get Involved ~ There are so many ways... *heading.
>
> Does that sound like a viable compromise? I remember going to those links
> when I joined WE and wasn't clear about what 'to do'
>
> Cheers
> Fabiana
>
> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Patricia Schlicht <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Fabiana and Alison,
>>
>> Great comments and suggestions. I would like to add my comment as well.
>> While everybody is right, you come across pages with little or no content at
>> times, I would like to say that I think we need to differentiate between
>> user pages and project pages. Allison's suggestion regarding the {{stub}}
>> indication applies mostly to project pages. We do not have a stub category
>> for user pages, please correct me if I am wrong. Some users use {{WIP}}=
>> Work in Progress on their user page. Pages can be suggested for deletion
>> {{delete}} and WikiEd Admin will process it, but as these are user pages,
>> they can't just be deleted, so maybe what we should create is category for
>> those pages and whenever we come across a page where there is hardly any
>> content, we can flag it this way and collect them all under one category,
>> which is not taken the page from the actual user, if s/he wants to continue
>> using it at a later point. Just a suggestion.
>> Cheers,
>> Patricia
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 1:46 AM, Kubke <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> In my random page visit through WE I often come across pages that have
>>> little or no content and in which the last edit has happened a long time
>>> ago. I could not find an 'orphan' category.
>>> One option would be to delete those pages.
>>> A second option could be to create an 'orphan' (or similar) category that
>>> could group the pages so that people looking for things to contribute could
>>> go to that aggregation and find topics that have not been fully developed.
>>> This last option could be nicely tied with the L4C workshops for example.
>>> Any suggestions as to how to deal with these?
>>> Cheers
>>> Fabiana Kubke
>>>
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