I think from a student's point of view, one should think in terms of a mix of on-line and in-person classes.
The pitfall is to think it's either / or. The notion that we need to decide "which is better?" depends on the student's specific circumstances. It's just wheel spinning to try to decide "which is better in general?" (not a useful question). Both are useful (and each comes in many flavors within those broad categories). Kirby On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 11:06 AM, gene loeb <[email protected]> wrote: > This is a very valuable discussion. I have been stidying various > non-traditional ways to learn, and heard the claim that online classes are > the best. Yet, I see that in-class learning is very valuable. There are > several reasons, first, the element of meeting people in person and > interacting in person. teaching in class may be more effective for certain > learners. And some teachers are very effective, as much as or more effective > then other environments for learning. > > The value of this discussion threat is it does discuss the VALUE OF IN-CLASS > LEARNING which I haven't seen elsewhere. > Thanks, > > Gene > Gene Loeb, Ph.D. > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:08 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I agree that young people and probably not so young people need a teacher, >> mentor or coach to guide them but that person might be an academic advisor >> available on the web or perhaps even better an on-site mentor/coach who >> could work with students to choose OER resources that will best suit their >> learning needs and build logically toward appropriate learning outcomes. >> One of my community organizing students (working in Haiti) suggested that >> such "coaches" might be located in schools or some other kind of >> "educational resource sites"...they could provide face-to-face guidance >> for >> those who could access the site physically and perhaps telephone coaching >> for those who cannot. Even the addition of voice contact through cell >> phone might give inexperienced students the confidence they need as well >> as >> guidance through the often confusing world of academic preparation. I >> wonder what people think of this idea. Joyce McKnight, Associate >> Professor, Empire State College (US) >> >> >> >> From: jim kelly <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Date: 01/10/2013 12:40 PM >> Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: Why classrooms are important? >> Sent by: [email protected] >> >> >> >> Agree. There is no doubt that interactions between a young (or beginning) >> learner and an educator are very important. Failure here guarantees that >> knowledge will be misused. The value and enthusiasm to learn require the >> presents of an educator. But a lack of qualified educators in many >> learning >> communities, money to obtain an education and a world in which the human >> knowledge base has gone global is requiring communities to redefine how a >> learner learns. >> >> >> Examine the observation made in the Youth Version of the 2012 UNESCO >> Education for All Global Monitoring Report ( >> >> http://www.unevoc.unesco.org/e-forum/Be%20skiller%20be%20employed%20be%20change%20generation.pdf >> ) by Ali Zayaan a 19 year old from Maldives "Even right now, many young >> people that can’t afford full schooling are able to access the internet. >> They can use the internet (whether at home or somewhere public like a >> library) to learn at their own pace for free, even if they have to work in >> the daytime or can’t afford or access regular schooling. If they want to >> get a qualification like a high school diploma, then they just need to >> afford time and money for one or two days to attend an exam. This lowers >> the cost barrier of pursuing an education a lot." >> >> >> Traditional educational approaches need to adapt. >> >> >> Jim Kelly >> ( www.k-12math.info) >> >> >> -- >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "WikiEducator" group. >> To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org >> To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> -- >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "WikiEducator" group. >> To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org >> To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> >> > > > > -- > With Sincerest Best Wishes , > Gene > Gene Loeb, Ph.D. > > -- > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "WikiEducator" group. > To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org > To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. 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