Very well put kirby. I agree. Gene On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:20 PM, kirby urner <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think from a student's point of view, one should think in terms of a > mix of on-line and in-person classes. > > The pitfall is to think it's either / or. > > The notion that we need to decide "which is better?" depends on the > student's specific circumstances. It's just wheel spinning to try to > decide "which is better in general?" (not a useful question). > > Both are useful (and each comes in many flavors within those broad > categories). > > Kirby > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 11:06 AM, gene loeb <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is a very valuable discussion. I have been stidying various > > non-traditional ways to learn, and heard the claim that online classes > are > > the best. Yet, I see that in-class learning is very valuable. There are > > several reasons, first, the element of meeting people in person and > > interacting in person. teaching in class may be more effective for > certain > > learners. And some teachers are very effective, as much as or more > effective > > then other environments for learning. > > > > The value of this discussion threat is it does discuss the VALUE OF > IN-CLASS > > LEARNING which I haven't seen elsewhere. > > Thanks, > > > > Gene > > Gene Loeb, Ph.D. > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:08 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> I agree that young people and probably not so young people need a > teacher, > >> mentor or coach to guide them but that person might be an academic > advisor > >> available on the web or perhaps even better an on-site mentor/coach who > >> could work with students to choose OER resources that will best suit > their > >> learning needs and build logically toward appropriate learning outcomes. > >> One of my community organizing students (working in Haiti) suggested > that > >> such "coaches" might be located in schools or some other kind of > >> "educational resource sites"...they could provide face-to-face guidance > >> for > >> those who could access the site physically and perhaps telephone > coaching > >> for those who cannot. Even the addition of voice contact through cell > >> phone might give inexperienced students the confidence they need as well > >> as > >> guidance through the often confusing world of academic preparation. I > >> wonder what people think of this idea. Joyce McKnight, Associate > >> Professor, Empire State College (US) > >> > >> > >> > >> From: jim kelly <[email protected]> > >> To: [email protected] > >> Date: 01/10/2013 12:40 PM > >> Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: Why classrooms are important? > >> Sent by: [email protected] > >> > >> > >> > >> Agree. There is no doubt that interactions between a young (or > beginning) > >> learner and an educator are very important. Failure here guarantees that > >> knowledge will be misused. The value and enthusiasm to learn require the > >> presents of an educator. But a lack of qualified educators in many > >> learning > >> communities, money to obtain an education and a world in which the human > >> knowledge base has gone global is requiring communities to redefine how > a > >> learner learns. > >> > >> > >> Examine the observation made in the Youth Version of the 2012 UNESCO > >> Education for All Global Monitoring Report ( > >> > >> > http://www.unevoc.unesco.org/e-forum/Be%20skiller%20be%20employed%20be%20change%20generation.pdf > >> ) by Ali Zayaan a 19 year old from Maldives "Even right now, many young > >> people that can’t afford full schooling are able to access the internet. > >> They can use the internet (whether at home or somewhere public like a > >> library) to learn at their own pace for free, even if they have to work > in > >> the daytime or can’t afford or access regular schooling. If they want to > >> get a qualification like a high school diploma, then they just need to > >> afford time and money for one or two days to attend an exam. This lowers > >> the cost barrier of pursuing an education a lot." > >> > >> > >> Traditional educational approaches need to adapt. > >> > >> > >> Jim Kelly > >> ( www.k-12math.info) > >> > >> > >> -- > >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "WikiEducator" group. > >> To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org > >> To visit the discussion forum: > http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected] > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "WikiEducator" group. > >> To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org > >> To visit the discussion forum: > http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected] > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > With Sincerest Best Wishes , > > Gene > > Gene Loeb, Ph.D. > > > > -- > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "WikiEducator" group. > > To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org > > To visit the discussion forum: > http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected] > > > > > > -- > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "WikiEducator" group. > To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org > To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > > > -- With Sincerest Best Wishes , Gene Gene Loeb, Ph.D. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. 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