On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Jane Darnell <jane...@gmail.com> wrote:

> All I said is that the wiki way works, that's all. You can't hide it when
> someone tries to take over a project, and that is the reason we shouldn't
> try to anticipate that with convoluted strategies. "Assume Good Faith" will
> always win out over any strange misguided takeover strategy, which is why
> governments that intend to do such things choose nowadays to just block
> wikimedia altogether. It is not our wake-up call to take, but that of the
> Kazakh people.

Ah, I see. That's easy to say for people in the Western world.

In Uzbekistan dissidents have been boiled alive.[1] In Kazakhstan,
journalists are imprisoned and harassed; one was firebombed and had the
decapitated carcass of a dog left outside her offices. (The dog's head
later turned up at her home.)[2] In Azerbaijan, Wikipedians have been
tortured and threatened with torture, according to posts on the WMCEE-l
mailing list.[3]

All respect to you if you run these risks in order to edit Wikipedia, and
still do it regardless. But if you don't, please don't dispense blithe and
jejune advice, and don't tell people who are concerned about remaining
alive, preferably with their skin and fingernails intact, that they need a
wake-up call.

I'd rather you told the WMF not to reward the functionaries of such regimes
with "Wikipedian of the Year" awards and trademark licence agreements.

[1] http://www.rferl.org/content/uzbekistans-house-of-torture/24667200.html
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irina_Petrushova
[3] http://listy.wikimedia.pl/pipermail/wmcee-l/2015-May/000839.html
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