Well the chances of me being firebombed while on vacation in the states are probably higher than me being firebombed for editing Wikipedia, but that still doesn't mean we need to worry about changing the wiki model. I guess I have lost the thread of your point entirely now.
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 8:13 PM, Andreas Kolbe <jayen...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Jane Darnell <jane...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > All I said is that the wiki way works, that's all. You can't hide it when > > someone tries to take over a project, and that is the reason we shouldn't > > try to anticipate that with convoluted strategies. "Assume Good Faith" > will > > always win out over any strange misguided takeover strategy, which is why > > governments that intend to do such things choose nowadays to just block > > wikimedia altogether. It is not our wake-up call to take, but that of the > > Kazakh people. > > > > Ah, I see. That's easy to say for people in the Western world. > > In Uzbekistan dissidents have been boiled alive. In Kazakhstan, > journalists are imprisoned and harassed; one was firebombed and had the > decapitated carcass of a dog left outside her offices. (The dog's head > later turned up at her home.) In Azerbaijan, Wikipedians have been > tortured and threatened with torture, according to posts on the WMCEE-l > mailing list. > > All respect to you if you run these risks in order to edit Wikipedia, and > still do it regardless. But if you don't, please don't dispense blithe and > jejune advice, and don't tell people who are concerned about remaining > alive, preferably with their skin and fingernails intact, that they need a > wake-up call. > > I'd rather you told the WMF not to reward the functionaries of such regimes > with "Wikipedian of the Year" awards and trademark licence agreements. > >  > http://www.rferl.org/content/uzbekistans-house-of-torture/24667200.html >  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irina_Petrushova >  http://listy.wikimedia.pl/pipermail/wmcee-l/2015-May/000839.html > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimediaemail@example.com > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>