I am pretty sure we already have the Bible translated in all the languages (don't know because I didn't check). You inspired me though to think about the benefits of interlinking it down to the word level and how that might benefit Wikidata in achieving a level playing field in basic terminology for everyday terms like "tree" "book" etc. We are still missing so many labels on Wikidata. Sigh
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Amir E. Aharoni < [email protected]> wrote: > (I'm not sure I was understood correctly... I didn't mean translating the > Bible to yet more languages, but translating an encyclopedia to more > languages.) > > > -- > Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי > http://aharoni.wordpress.com > “We're living in pieces, > I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore > > 2017-05-17 21:11 GMT+03:00 Jane Darnell <[email protected]>: > > > That is an interesting idea! Maybe we should be working on modelling the > > Bible better on Wikidata and cross-referencing it to dictionaries and all > > other religious texts. If it is so important for literacy, it may help > > unite efforts on labelling in Wikidata. I have no idea how many words are > > used in the Bible, but hopefully it will cover a lot of basic ground in > any > > language. > > If the 2bn falls through I bet we could ask the Vatican for a grant to > > Wikidatafy the entire Catholic encyclopedia. > > > > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 7:38 PM, Amir E. Aharoni < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Heh, I remember Mr Wales asking what could the movement do with a > million > > > dollars some time around 2006. Is anything on the horizon? > > > > > > What could we do? Many things; one of them would be to get our act > > together > > > and become a true leader in software and content localization. > Currently > > we > > > are proud about maintaining MediaWiki, a piece of software that is > > probably > > > translated to more languages than any other, and that is great, but: > > > > > > 1. Our software localization tooling, excellent as it is, didn't become > > the > > > industry standard, even though it could with better packaging. Why is > it > > > important? Because a Wikipedia in a given language doesn't exist in > > > isolation—it exists in an environment of other programs, sites, > > platforms, > > > and media. There was a (relatively) thriving software localization > > > community in the Catalan language already in the 1990s (!), so it's not > > > surprising that Catalan Wikipedia was the first to start after English, > > and > > > is among the most successful Wikimedia projects now. Making software > > > localization better for everybody will bring computer usage to the > whole > > > world, and we can be the leaders in it, rather than leaving it to the > > > corporations. > > > 2. We have the theoretical ability to write articles in any language of > > the > > > world, but not everybody actually does it. Some language communities > need > > > stronger nudges than others to get going: Training about translation > and > > > scientific writing, developing terminology, developing spelling > > > dictionaries, developing keyboards that allow convenient typing, > literacy > > > programs, etc. In a lot of languages the Bible is the only published > > book; > > > this happened thanks to donations from people who want to spread their > > > religion around the world. If it can be done with the Bible, it can be > > done > > > with an encyclopedia. > > > 3. We are influencing public policy in the area of copyright law, but > we > > > should be influencing public policy around the whole world to make > > > localized computing and content more accessible. Lobbying needs > > resources. > > > See > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia_ > > > movement/2017/Cycle_2/A_Truly_Global_Movement#Governments_ > > > and_computer_vendors:_Accessibility_to_localization_technology > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי > > > http://aharoni.wordpress.com > > > “We're living in pieces, > > > I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore > > > > > > 2017-05-17 20:08 GMT+03:00 David Cuenca Tudela <[email protected]>: > > > > > > > Are there any activities that could have a meaningful impact if we > ask > > > > donors for such amount of seed money? Are there reasons to do so? > > > > > > > > Do we have the guts to do so? > > > > > > > > Do we have the organizational capital to handle it? Or can we get > there > > > > soon? > > > > > > > > Do we have the moral right to take a lead in the world and ask for as > > > much > > > > resources as needed? > > > > > > > > Is our leader and our members willing to take big undertakings? > > > > > > > > Are most of us ready to live in fear while the values that we cherry > > most > > > > would crumble under our own eyes? > > > > > > > > Would it matter much if we as a movement would disappear? Or is it a > > > > struggle always a positive answer against the shadows in the world? > > > > > > > > Can we offer anything else in this world than truth, free knowledge, > > and > > > an > > > > open inclusive environment? > > > > > > > > Would you take best wishes from a stranger like me? > > > > > > > > > > > > Micru > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > New messages to: [email protected] > > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/ > mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > New messages to: [email protected] > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
