" To distribute many of the function now at WMF in SF to different locations in the world (whereof 50% in Global south)" - Distributing work now being paid with US wages to US staff at SF to people at the Global South paying "Global South wages" sounds a lot like moving the factories from San Francisco to Dhaka because wages are much lower there, while parading it as moving towards "diversity" and "inclusion".
Paulo Anders Wennersten <m...@anderswennersten.se> escreveu no dia segunda, 12/08/2019 à(s) 18:31: > I want to express my appreciation for the work being done and the result. > > I am not able to get to grips with all parts of the recommendation but > as I understand there are two key messages: > > *To distribute many of the function now at WMF in SF to different > locations in the world (whereof 50% in Global south). I find this is > most appropriate, both to lessen the feeling of We-them, but also to get > more salaried people spread over the World. It is also a natural > development as out organisation mature over time > > *To really go, without any compromise for the discussion in the movement > in our communities must be held in a civil tone and in a friendly > atmosphere where respect for everyone is a key. I believe also this is > long overdue and necessary when we now are over 15 years of age. > > I love these two issues and hope it will be implemented in full. > > Anders > > > > Den 2019-08-12 kl. 17:51, skrev Nicole Ebber: > > Dear all, > > > > We would like to offer further clarification that the recommendations for > > Wikimedia 2030 [1] that were shared earlier with you are indeed drafts. > > They represent discussions around a wide array of topics that the nine > > thematic working groups, affiliates and communities had identified > > important for our movement’s future. They are the product of > conversations > > over many months with a variety of stakeholders, and the working groups > are > > eager to hear from you. The draft recommendations are neither final nor > > complete, but a continuation of an ongoing conversation happening across > > wikis, platforms, surveys, meetings, and meet-ups. As such, constructive > > feedback and solution-oriented suggestions are welcomed. The draft > > recommendations are based on contexts that deserve due review and > > reflection, and are the result of the efforts of many, rather than single > > individuals. > > > > Many of the draft recommendations underline structural changes needed for > > the growth and expansion of a movement like ours. Many are representative > > of wider societal, historical and global dynamics around us. Please take > > the time to review the draft recommendations in their entirety, pose > > questions, hear from others, and in the spirit of collegial > collaboration, > > offer suggestions that you think can address the issues at hand. This is > a > > process for all of us to shape our shared future, together; let’s keep > > engaging and challenging one another in this same spirit. > > > > Best wishes, > > Nicole > > > > [1] > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations > > > > On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 at 15:49, Todd Allen <toddmal...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> "And just to keep this on track, what is your view on how we can > >> incorporate > >> indigenous knowledge without it becoming commercialised by the current > >> licensing scheme?" > >> > >> We can't and no one can. > >> > >> Knowledge, ideas, and concepts cannot be copyrighted to begin with. Now, > >> specific expressions of those ideas certainly can be, but the underlying > >> facts and ideas cannot. If the expression of those ideas is to be on > >> Wikimedia, they must be under an open content license, allowing reuse > >> without regard to purpose. If someone would prefer to put their work > under > >> an NC license, then a free-content project is not the appropriate place > for > >> it. Many other places are happy to accept NC-licensed material. But even > >> then, reuse of the concepts and facts cannot be prohibited no matter > what > >> one does. > >> > >> Todd > >> > >> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 5:47 AM Philip Kopetzky < > philip.kopet...@gmail.com > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Please don't generalise frustration with your conduct on this list. > >> You're > >>> the only one telling people to shut up here. > >>> > >>> And just to keep this on track, what is your view on how we can > >> incorporate > >>> indigenous knowledge without it becoming commercialised by the current > >>> licensing scheme? > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > >>> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > >>> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
