No, it does not work like this. Large communities are only going to accept decisions which were discussed with them properly, on their project and in the two-way interaction mode. The discussions on Meta in the mode "we will listen to you and then let you know of our decision" are not going to be accepted. We have had enough recent examples to illustrate this.
Cheers Yaroslav On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 5:51 PM Nicole Ebber <nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > Dear all, > > We would like to offer further clarification that the recommendations for > Wikimedia 2030 [1] that were shared earlier with you are indeed drafts. > They represent discussions around a wide array of topics that the nine > thematic working groups, affiliates and communities had identified > important for our movement’s future. They are the product of conversations > over many months with a variety of stakeholders, and the working groups are > eager to hear from you. The draft recommendations are neither final nor > complete, but a continuation of an ongoing conversation happening across > wikis, platforms, surveys, meetings, and meet-ups. As such, constructive > feedback and solution-oriented suggestions are welcomed. The draft > recommendations are based on contexts that deserve due review and > reflection, and are the result of the efforts of many, rather than single > individuals. > > Many of the draft recommendations underline structural changes needed for > the growth and expansion of a movement like ours. Many are representative > of wider societal, historical and global dynamics around us. Please take > the time to review the draft recommendations in their entirety, pose > questions, hear from others, and in the spirit of collegial collaboration, > offer suggestions that you think can address the issues at hand. This is a > process for all of us to shape our shared future, together; let’s keep > engaging and challenging one another in this same spirit. > > Best wishes, > Nicole > > [1] > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations > > On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 at 15:49, Todd Allen <toddmal...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > "And just to keep this on track, what is your view on how we can > > incorporate > > indigenous knowledge without it becoming commercialised by the current > > licensing scheme?" > > > > We can't and no one can. > > > > Knowledge, ideas, and concepts cannot be copyrighted to begin with. Now, > > specific expressions of those ideas certainly can be, but the underlying > > facts and ideas cannot. If the expression of those ideas is to be on > > Wikimedia, they must be under an open content license, allowing reuse > > without regard to purpose. If someone would prefer to put their work > under > > an NC license, then a free-content project is not the appropriate place > for > > it. Many other places are happy to accept NC-licensed material. But even > > then, reuse of the concepts and facts cannot be prohibited no matter what > > one does. > > > > Todd > > > > On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 5:47 AM Philip Kopetzky < > philip.kopet...@gmail.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > Please don't generalise frustration with your conduct on this list. > > You're > > > the only one telling people to shut up here. > > > > > > And just to keep this on track, what is your view on how we can > > incorporate > > > indigenous knowledge without it becoming commercialised by the current > > > licensing scheme? > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > -- > Nicole Ebber > Adviser International Relations > Program Manager Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy > Wikimedia Deutschland e. 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