I will join.


2010/3/13 Naveen Francis <navee...@gmail.com>

> Can we have a IRC on this topic ?
> Proposed time : Today, 8 pm (March 13, 2010),
> Join on : irc://irc.freenode.org/wikimedia-in
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India#IRC
> Thanks,
> Naveen Francis
> On 12 March 2010 13:51, BalaSundaraRaman <sundarbe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Shahid,
>> Please don't see the executive group as an entitlement arising purely out
>> of Wiki contributions. Every Wikipedian puts in volunteer effort to the
>> extent they can, and we don't do it for any special previlege or quid pro
>> quo, do we?
>> The members you see here are merely who were known to have expressed a
>> willingness to form a chapter during several meetups during Jimmy and Sue's
>> visits. Achal collected such a list from various sources, sent them a
>> questionnaire to understand both their Wiki credo as well as commitment and
>> other experience required to form and bootstrap such an organisation. There
>> were meetings of such a group and then the founding group crystallised. Yes,
>> it's not the most scientific method, but what would be an alternative? Is
>> there any other basis to pick a group for this assignment? A wiki vote would
>> only measure the goodwill inside the respective Wiki. But, doesn't the
>> Wikimedia Chapter guideline explicitly outline the need to have people from
>> outside the community, but have the commitment and shared beliefs, if they
>> bring in organisational expertise? Please reflect on these aspects.
>> I was part of one earlier attempt to form the India chapter and know of
>> other attempts as well. None of our previous attempts succeeded and we were
>> losing a lot of opportunities to spread Wiki in India. That is why, I agreed
>> to join this kind of a coordinated effort to bootstrap the chapter. This is
>> definitely not the end of the road for the chapter, just the beginning. The
>> views of every committed Wikipedian will be accommodated and they'll have a
>> fair chance to participate in the activities of the chapter. In fact, there
>> are ideas to create city-wise and wiki-wise special interest groups.
>> And, please have a look at the list of people mentioned and say whether we
>> are a bunch of politicians who can't be trusted. We are a committed set of
>> people, who met every month on a weekend, did conference calls almost every
>> week, and brought out this draft meeting Wikimedia Chapters' Committe
>> recommendations and the Indian Law, not an easy task.
>> The choice of Bangalore was for two reasons: 1) this is one city which has
>> people from many Indian language Wikipedias and 2) Centre for Internet and
>> Society who's hosting this organisation in the bootstrapping phase is
>> located here. Other than that, this is not Bangalore-centric or English
>> Wiki-centric. There's enough diversity in the group if you care to observe.
>> I hope you'll understand the points.
>> Regards,
>> Sundar
>> "That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium
>> for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted."
>> - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Shahid Akhtar <mohd.shahid_akh...@rediffmail.com>
>> *To:* wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>> *Sent:* Fri, March 12, 2010 12:47:04 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter
>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Praveen Prakash <me.prav...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> K. Then who is Kiruba Shankar?  What was the election process & criteria?
>>> How many people involved in that? Why all these process were hidden? Why
>>> even Hindi not informed?
>> This is what I'm wondering about too! I think this process should be more
>> inclusive and transparent!
>> Who decided the list of founding members (Signatories) mentioned on this
>> page http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India/MoA#WIKIMEDIA_INDIA?
>> And how was this list decided? How come Gautam K John (who is
>> self-admittedly not involved with Wikipedia) was invited to be a founding
>> member, but someone like User:Bhadani was not?
>> Why is some like HPN who has not made even 100 edits in 2009 and 2010 to
>> English, Kannada and Sanskrit Wikipedias combined together is at the
>> forefront of this initiative, but some of the most important contributors
>> from Indic wikipedias are not even a part of this?
>> I'm all for a Wikimedia India chapter, but it should be a group of all the
>> people who are actually part of the Wikipedia community! It should not be a
>> bunch of politicians that want to be face of Wikipedia to the Indian media
>> without having made any substantial contributions to Wikipedia.
>> Wikimedia India will receive thousands of rupees in donations. We need
>> trusted people who are representative of the pan-India Wikipedia community
>> to handle it.
>> If this is a group of people who are meeting in Bangalore for wining and
>> dining, this should be named "Wikimedia Bangalore" chapter, not "Wikipedia
>> INDIA" chapter!
>> Best regards
>> Shahid
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