I will join. Thanks Arjun
2010/3/13 Naveen Francis <navee...@gmail.com> > Can we have a IRC on this topic ? > Proposed time : Today, 8 pm (March 13, 2010), > Join on : irc://irc.freenode.org/wikimedia-in > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India#IRC > > Thanks, > Naveen Francis > > > On 12 March 2010 13:51, BalaSundaraRaman <sundarbe...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Shahid, >> >> Please don't see the executive group as an entitlement arising purely out >> of Wiki contributions. Every Wikipedian puts in volunteer effort to the >> extent they can, and we don't do it for any special previlege or quid pro >> quo, do we? >> >> The members you see here are merely who were known to have expressed a >> willingness to form a chapter during several meetups during Jimmy and Sue's >> visits. Achal collected such a list from various sources, sent them a >> questionnaire to understand both their Wiki credo as well as commitment and >> other experience required to form and bootstrap such an organisation. There >> were meetings of such a group and then the founding group crystallised. Yes, >> it's not the most scientific method, but what would be an alternative? Is >> there any other basis to pick a group for this assignment? A wiki vote would >> only measure the goodwill inside the respective Wiki. But, doesn't the >> Wikimedia Chapter guideline explicitly outline the need to have people from >> outside the community, but have the commitment and shared beliefs, if they >> bring in organisational expertise? Please reflect on these aspects. >> >> I was part of one earlier attempt to form the India chapter and know of >> other attempts as well. None of our previous attempts succeeded and we were >> losing a lot of opportunities to spread Wiki in India. That is why, I agreed >> to join this kind of a coordinated effort to bootstrap the chapter. This is >> definitely not the end of the road for the chapter, just the beginning. The >> views of every committed Wikipedian will be accommodated and they'll have a >> fair chance to participate in the activities of the chapter. In fact, there >> are ideas to create city-wise and wiki-wise special interest groups. >> >> And, please have a look at the list of people mentioned and say whether we >> are a bunch of politicians who can't be trusted. We are a committed set of >> people, who met every month on a weekend, did conference calls almost every >> week, and brought out this draft meeting Wikimedia Chapters' Committe >> recommendations and the Indian Law, not an easy task. >> >> The choice of Bangalore was for two reasons: 1) this is one city which has >> people from many Indian language Wikipedias and 2) Centre for Internet and >> Society who's hosting this organisation in the bootstrapping phase is >> located here. Other than that, this is not Bangalore-centric or English >> Wiki-centric. There's enough diversity in the group if you care to observe. >> >> I hope you'll understand the points. >> >> >> Regards, >> Sundar >> >> "That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium >> for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted." >> - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Shahid Akhtar <mohd.shahid_akh...@rediffmail.com> >> >> *To:* wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> *Sent:* Fri, March 12, 2010 12:47:04 PM >> >> *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter >> >> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Praveen Prakash <me.prav...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> K. Then who is Kiruba Shankar? What was the election process & criteria? >>> How many people involved in that? Why all these process were hidden? Why >>> even Hindi not informed? >>> >> >> This is what I'm wondering about too! I think this process should be more >> inclusive and transparent! >> >> Who decided the list of founding members (Signatories) mentioned on this >> page http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India/MoA#WIKIMEDIA_INDIA? >> And how was this list decided? How come Gautam K John (who is >> self-admittedly not involved with Wikipedia) was invited to be a founding >> member, but someone like User:Bhadani was not? >> >> Why is some like HPN who has not made even 100 edits in 2009 and 2010 to >> English, Kannada and Sanskrit Wikipedias combined together is at the >> forefront of this initiative, but some of the most important contributors >> from Indic wikipedias are not even a part of this? >> >> I'm all for a Wikimedia India chapter, but it should be a group of all the >> people who are actually part of the Wikipedia community! It should not be a >> bunch of politicians that want to be face of Wikipedia to the Indian media >> without having made any substantial contributions to Wikipedia. >> >> Wikimedia India will receive thousands of rupees in donations. We need >> trusted people who are representative of the pan-India Wikipedia community >> to handle it. >> >> If this is a group of people who are meeting in Bangalore for wining and >> dining, this should be named "Wikimedia Bangalore" chapter, not "Wikipedia >> INDIA" chapter! >> >> Best regards >> Shahid >> >> >> <http://sigads.rediff.com/RealMedia/ads/click_nx.ads/www.rediffmail.com/signatureline....@middle?> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > >
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