Hi Kat,

sounds all great! However, if I may suggest, including it in the newsletter
is unlikely to be a very helpful reminder. I myself at least ignore at
least 75% of every newsletter I actually open, and this includes everything
that looks too structured (such as these fields). If you want these people
to remain active, I suggest to send at least two reminders (as seperate
emails) which look very different from regular WMUK mail (from a special
email address, without usual tags in the topic, etc) to avoid that they get
cought in automated email filters that put WMUK news letters in the
WMUK-never-to-look-at-folder (yeah, people do that - so horrible!). Having
the status in the newsletter besides that might be helpful though - because
it gives positive confirmation that everything is all right.

Best,
Lodewijk (notorious for forgetting to pay on first notice)

2013/2/8 Katherine Bavage <katherine.bav...@wikimedia.org.uk>

> Hello all,
>
> Well all I shall happily say in reply is '*be careful what you wish for*'....
> I shall consider myself to have been given a mandate To Nag (nicely, of
> course) and (as far I can tell) there's no appetite to reduce the grace
> period.
>
> To come back on specific points:
>
>    - Now we have a separate bank account for membership fees its
>    certainly possible to set up a standing order for the fee - I'll look into
>    direct debits too and update you all with some 'How-to' instructions on
>    wiki next week. We've previously been cautious in setting this up because
>    we have had a problem in the past with standing orders with no useful
>    reference number against them, and therefore not being to identify who the
>    money came from and for what when it was all going into the same account.
>    - Yes, you can pay for x number of years in advance - we can record
>    longer terms on the database, and append notes to the contact record
>    explaining why.
>    - No, if someone's term ended due to, say resignation or expulsion,
>    but they paid for a longer period than that n advance, I don't' think we
>    could prudently refund the money (money laundering regs - yes I know, a bit
>    of an OTT application in this context, but still). So, people would have to
>    accept that in paying, say £10 for a two-year membership term that if they
>    resigned etc then the additional sum would be taken to be a donation.
>    - *At the moment* everyone who is approaching expiry will get an
>    automated email - however, as we've all identified, one isn't enough. It's
>    my intention now that each monthly newsletter email contain a field
>    indicating if the recipient's membership is current or grace and the date
>    of their term end. I'm hoping that improvements in our database hosting may
>    mean that members can check this online in the future - however, I need to
>    investigate the challenges this may present too, so I can't promise
>    anything just yet (but I'm aware it would be a good feature to offer)
>    - If you want to know if you membership is current, email
>    members...@wikimedia.org.uk and I can check for you! Or check your
>    most recent newsletter from this month on...
>    - Gift aid - yes, membership fees are eligible. I'm acutely aware the
>    online gift aid form is currently on the fritz and have requested this be
>    fixed - when it is, again, we can include mention in the newsletter that
>    members should make a declaration if they want their fees to attract this
>    tax relief. In the meantime, any keen bean who wants a paper form to fill
>    in, again, members...@wikimedia.org.uk
>
> Thanks for the quick and helpful responses all :)
>
> Kat
>
> On 8 February 2013 14:12, Doug Weller <dougwel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> How do we check our membership?
>> Doug
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>wrote:
>>
>>> I think this is already possible :) I actually paid for two years at
>>> once, because that was the amount of pounds I happened to have left over -
>>> not sure if people will get mad at me now if I make their lives more
>>> complicated, but asking nicely brings you a long way! :)
>>>
>>> Lodewijk
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/2/7 Tom Morris <t...@tommorris.org>
>>>
>>>> One suggestion: allow members to sign up for multiple years in advance.
>>>> I'm perfectly happy to pay for two or three years of membership in one go.
>>>>
>>>> There may be some practical issues, such as whether or not if one were
>>>> to, say, sign up for a three year membership but resign after a year, the
>>>> remainder would be refunded as unused.
>>>>
>>>> If it were offered, I'd certainly be happy to pay for a few years in
>>>> advance so that I don't have the mildly irritating situation of wanting to
>>>> run some kind of outreach event and not being able to apply for a
>>>> microgrant because my membership has lapsed.
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> <http://tommorris.org/>
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