2009/7/8 Aryeh Gregor <[email protected]>:
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:27 PM, David Gerard<[email protected]> wrote:

>> Uh, it's not a good option for Wikimedia video.

> With XiphQT, why not?  Maybe not ideal, but surely "good".


As Greg has noted, due to a bug in Safari it's impossible for the
browser at present to indicate that it can handle Ogg or not.

So how do we tell if the Safari user can use that or if they have to
download XiphQT? There isn't a way at present. Either we shove Safari
on Mac users onto Cortado by default (since Java can be presumed
present on MacOS X) or we risk giving them a <video> element that
doesn't work.

(Unless the failure can somehow be sniffed.)


> Nothing Apple has done has suggested to me that they've acted
> dishonestly.  Everything I've seen is consistent with them perceiving
> not enough benefit from supporting Theora to justify taking a
> nontrivial (although not necessarily large) legal risk.  Of course,
> their actions also might be consistent with more sinister hypotheses,
> but let's not assume bad faith here, shall we?


They are happy to foul up the entire standard. I feel there is little
to no benefit to us in trying to imply that the situation is
otherwise.


- d.

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