On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:12 PM, David Gerard<[email protected]> wrote:
> They are happy to foul up the entire standard. I feel there is little
> to no benefit to us in trying to imply that the situation is
> otherwise.

First of all, Apple is not "fouling up the entire standard".  They
employ one of its two co-editors, their developers contribute to it
very actively, and they ship an implementation that's as advanced as
anybody's.  This is *one* specific feature that they've said they
won't implement at the present time (but they may reconsider at any
time).  Mozilla has vetoed features as well, as Ian Hickson has
pointed out.  Mozilla refused to implement SQL, so that was removed
from the standard, just as mention of Theora was.

Second of all, I don't have a serious problem with Wikimedia only
advocating the use of open-source software, say.  But if it does, it
*must* be phrased in a way that makes it clear that it's an
advertisement of a product we want the user to use, not a neutral
assessment of what the best technology is for viewing the page.
Anything else is deliberately misleading, and that's unacceptable.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Gregory Maxwell<[email protected]> wrote:
> Regardless, I think we've finished the technical part of this
> decision— the details are a matter of organization concern now, not
> technology.

Yep, definitely.

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