Aryeh Gregor wrote: > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:12 PM, David Gerard<[email protected]> wrote: >> They are happy to foul up the entire standard. I feel there is little >> to no benefit to us in trying to imply that the situation is >> otherwise. > > First of all, Apple is not "fouling up the entire standard". They > employ one of its two co-editors, their developers contribute to it > very actively, and they ship an implementation that's as advanced as > anybody's. This is *one* specific feature that they've said they > won't implement at the present time (but they may reconsider at any > time). Mozilla has vetoed features as well, as Ian Hickson has > pointed out. Mozilla refused to implement SQL, so that was removed > from the standard, just as mention of Theora was. > > Second of all, I don't have a serious problem with Wikimedia only > advocating the use of open-source software, say. But if it does, it > *must* be phrased in a way that makes it clear that it's an > advertisement of a product we want the user to use, not a neutral > assessment of what the best technology is for viewing the page. > Anything else is deliberately misleading, and that's unacceptable.
I don't think we should phrase it like "a better experience", or "you better use X". That's too much used. The user will say "I am using Internet Viewer 8000, there's no way this advanced browser failt to show it, it's their fault." I advocate a simply: You can [[install X]] to get native support. [[More info]] And on more info you can explain everything: e are using the standard method for delivering video to the web, using the open source Ogg format. We detect your browser X doesn't support (<video> tag|Ogg). We currently show you the videos using a Java applet but it's slower. You can [update your browser or] install one of these browsers which do have support: *browser1 *browser2 *browser3 _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
