----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: Windows XP phaseout


At 08:54 AM 3/11/2006, Bill Hatcher typed:
Chuck, just how far back should we "hold onto Windows OEM?" Back to Win 3.3
or even earlier?

I feel the life of an operating system should span the life of the computer and I have not seen one shred of evidence to support the idea that computers should not last at least 5 years. What is wrong with the idea of selling the computer with the old operating system on it and buying a new computer with the new operating system that you want on it? For every power user who knows what he is getting and gets his money's worth from an upgrade, there are 9 who attempt to upgrade and it is not worth their money. I have seen a few computers (and I did not build every one of them) that I thought were worth upgrading the operating system on, but for most, it is not worth it to anyone but Microsoft.

Now from my reply to Bill's comments to my answer to Wayne's comments.

What gets me is this is the same guy that sells them a new copy of winders when he rebuilds a name brand box because it's easier than cleaning

I do not sell them Windows again. I use their Product Key on their COA and I often have to call Microsoft. Windows costs $90.00 for an upgrade or OEM and more for FULL. My total bill for a format and reinstall job is only $50.00 and that is all labor. In a typical rebuild where I carry their CPU forward, again, I use their Product Key and my call to Microsoft saves them $90.00. Microsoft always asks me if this is the first time this installation of Windows is being authenticated. Other than that, all I am asked by Microsoft and have to explain is the first set of 6 characters in the installation code, the Product Key, the brand and model of the computer, where it was purchased and how many computers (always 1) Windows has been installed on using this Product Key.

The only time I have sold Windows was the OEM version where I am building a new computer and using a new CPU. So far all of my motherboard replacements have been approved by Microsoft as long as the original CPU was carried forward. If you know Microsoft will allow you to carry Windows XP OEM forward with a CPU you are carrying forward (other components are usually carried forward, also) would you make the phone call and save the $90.00 or sell a Windows XP OEM kit?

When Microsoft quits allowing this carry forward (Windows and CPU mated) upon installations of new motherboards, then I will begin selling Windows XP OEM kits to get these jobs done. Until then I will save the customer that $90.00.

Why volunteer information when on the phone with Microsoft? If they were to ask me I would name each and every new component I am installing and which ones are being carried forward. Upon my attempt to authenticate I am sure the DNA of the rebuild job was sent to them anyway. Perhaps that is why they do not ask when on the phone.

Chuck
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