Eli,

The goal is to be as open as possible and post as many things as possible ahead of time, anything/everything to facilitate an off-line discussion and ensure broadest participation.

* Any documents, please post URL's to wink-dev@ before the meeting (google docs or wiki or JIRA or anywhere else public is ok)
* Come up with some sort of agenda items that needs to be discussed (this can 
be done on the wiki)
* Set up a specific start/stop time for the meeting so everyone can plan to be 
there at least for that duration.
* Please post the date/time of the IRC meeting, agenda and pointers to any 
documents.
* Someone should volunteer to keep the meeting on track
* Come up with proposals and possible solutions or action items for agenda items
* Post all above in logical chunks to wink-dev@ and ask for closure on the mailing list. This helps people who cannot attend the IRC chat and still want to participate
* When the chat winds down, please post the log to wink-dev.

thanks,
dims



On 06/18/2009 01:53 PM, Baram, Eliezer wrote:
Dim,
I'm new to IRC meeting and I try to figure out the right format that will make 
this meeting work.
I would call the meeting successful if valid questions will be raised during 
the conference and a discussion will be made.

How do you recommend to run the IRC meeting ?

If we were running the meeting In a conference call with an ability to share 
documents (by Google document for instance, or sent earlier by mail) I would 
format this meeting in a way where the contributors of the submissions would 
present their submission. These presentations would hopefully raise questions, 
and a discussion will be created. What can be an IRC alternative to this in 
order to trigger such discussion?

Thanks,
Eli

-----Original Message-----
From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 5:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Architecture Q&A Call

Nick,

Yes, please use IRC and post the transcript to the mailing list.

No, you cannot make decisions on the IRC chat, you need to post what ever you 
are proposing on the mailing list and VOTE
on it (72 hours etc as usual)

thanks,
dims

On 06/18/2009 10:45 AM, Nicholas L Gallardo wrote:
Jason, you (and anyone else for that matter) are absolutely invited, should
have made that point clear.  I mentioned it on the list for exactly that
reason though.

I agree that calls are not typical for the Apache projects I've seen
either.  But, it was proposed as a means to try to work through the issues
quickly and to get everyone acquainted.  Most discussion will obviously
happen on the mailing lists.  But, we need to come to a decision quickly on
the base code as that's holding up any other work.  If the community would
rather handle it via IRC then we can do that.  If done on IRC, do you just
copy/paste the transcript somewhere for people to comment on later?

Mentors, any suggestions here for how to have synchronous work sessions to
get through discussions quickly?

-Nick



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[email protected]
Phone: 512-286-6258
Building: 903 / 5G-016



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I think I can make that, if I'm invited of course.

Though along those lines, typically "calls" aren't really used that
much by the Apache community... IRC at times has even been a stretch,
though I think many communities use it for regular group
communications.  It may be construed as a bad sign if the first major
discussion is effectively offline.  Perhaps if a transcript of the
call was recorded somewhere, on this list, it might fly.  Otherwise
it may be better from a community perspective to hold this meeting
over IRC on freenode.net.  But I'm unsure, we'll let the mentors chime
in more on this.

I do think there needs to be more discussion on the merits of both
codebases before a descison is made.

Hope this helps...

--jason


On Jun 18, 2009, at 8:57 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo wrote:

All,

I think it would be useful to have a call next week for some Q&A
regarding
the two runtimes and architectures.  We can have the relevant people
give
summaries of the work that's been contributed and then answer
questions.

Given the geographic dispersion, getting a time nailed down will be
tough.
How does 8:00AM CST on Tuesday the 23rd work for everyone?

-Nick



Nicholas Gallardo
WebSphere  - REST&   WebServices Development
[email protected]
Phone: 512-286-6258
Building: 903 / 5G-016

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