I did a quick wiki page for the agenda at: http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WINK/Architecture+Meeting+And+Agenda
<http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WINK/Architecture+Meeting+And+Agenda>Please add anything you wish to discuss. I added some initial goals in a somewhat logical order (like short term goals first then choose architecture) that we should discuss them. On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo <[email protected]>wrote: > Thanks Dims, > > Since I called for the meeting, I'll take responsibility for getting the > info for the meeting posted and for getting summaries documented and posted. > > > -Nick > > > > Nicholas Gallardo > WebSphere - REST & WebServices Development > [email protected] > Phone: 512-286-6258 > Building: 903 / 5G-016 > [image: Inactive hide details for Davanum Srinivas <[email protected]>] > Davanum Srinivas <[email protected]> > > > > *Davanum Srinivas <[email protected]>* > > 06/18/2009 02:47 PM > Please respond to > [email protected] > > > > To > > [email protected] > cc > > > Subject > > Re: Architecture Q&A Call > > Eli, > > The goal is to be as open as possible and post as many things as possible > ahead of time, anything/everything to > facilitate an off-line discussion and ensure broadest participation. > > * Any documents, please post URL's to wink-dev@ before the meeting (google > docs or wiki or JIRA or anywhere else public > is ok) > * Come up with some sort of agenda items that needs to be discussed (this > can be done on the wiki) > * Set up a specific start/stop time for the meeting so everyone can plan to > be there at least for that duration. > * Please post the date/time of the IRC meeting, agenda and pointers to any > documents. > * Someone should volunteer to keep the meeting on track > * Come up with proposals and possible solutions or action items for agenda > items > * Post all above in logical chunks to wink-dev@ and ask for closure on the > mailing list. This helps people who cannot > attend the IRC chat and still want to participate > * When the chat winds down, please post the log to wink-dev. > > thanks, > dims > > > > On 06/18/2009 01:53 PM, Baram, Eliezer wrote: > > Dim, > > I'm new to IRC meeting and I try to figure out the right format that will > make this meeting work. > > I would call the meeting successful if valid questions will be raised > during the conference and a discussion will be made. > > > > How do you recommend to run the IRC meeting ? > > > > If we were running the meeting In a conference call with an ability to > share documents (by Google document for instance, or sent earlier by mail) I > would format this meeting in a way where the contributors of the submissions > would present their submission. These presentations would hopefully raise > questions, and a discussion will be created. What can be an IRC alternative > to this in order to trigger such discussion? > > > > Thanks, > > Eli > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] > > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 5:57 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Architecture Q&A Call > > > > Nick, > > > > Yes, please use IRC and post the transcript to the mailing list. > > > > No, you cannot make decisions on the IRC chat, you need to post what ever > you are proposing on the mailing list and VOTE > > on it (72 hours etc as usual) > > > > thanks, > > dims > > > > On 06/18/2009 10:45 AM, Nicholas L Gallardo wrote: > >> Jason, you (and anyone else for that matter) are absolutely invited, > should > >> have made that point clear. I mentioned it on the list for exactly that > >> reason though. > >> > >> I agree that calls are not typical for the Apache projects I've seen > >> either. But, it was proposed as a means to try to work through the > issues > >> quickly and to get everyone acquainted. Most discussion will obviously > >> happen on the mailing lists. But, we need to come to a decision quickly > on > >> the base code as that's holding up any other work. If the community > would > >> rather handle it via IRC then we can do that. If done on IRC, do you > just > >> copy/paste the transcript somewhere for people to comment on later? > >> > >> Mentors, any suggestions here for how to have synchronous work sessions > to > >> get through discussions quickly? > >> > >> -Nick > >> > >> > >> > >> Nicholas Gallardo > >> WebSphere - REST& WebServices Development > >> [email protected] > >> Phone: 512-286-6258 > >> Building: 903 / 5G-016 > >> > >> > >> > >> Jason Dillon > >> <[email protected] > >> om> > To > >> Sent by: Jason [email protected] > >> Dillon > cc > >> <jason.dil...@gma > >> il.com> > Subject > >> Re: Architecture Q&A Call > >> > >> 06/18/2009 09:11 > >> AM > >> > >> > >> Please respond to > >> wink-...@incubato > >> r.apache.org > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> I think I can make that, if I'm invited of course. > >> > >> Though along those lines, typically "calls" aren't really used that > >> much by the Apache community... IRC at times has even been a stretch, > >> though I think many communities use it for regular group > >> communications. It may be construed as a bad sign if the first major > >> discussion is effectively offline. Perhaps if a transcript of the > >> call was recorded somewhere, on this list, it might fly. Otherwise > >> it may be better from a community perspective to hold this meeting > >> over IRC on freenode.net. But I'm unsure, we'll let the mentors chime > >> in more on this. > >> > >> I do think there needs to be more discussion on the merits of both > >> codebases before a descison is made. > >> > >> Hope this helps... > >> > >> --jason > >> > >> > >> On Jun 18, 2009, at 8:57 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo wrote: > >> > >>> All, > >>> > >>> I think it would be useful to have a call next week for some Q&A > >>> regarding > >>> the two runtimes and architectures. We can have the relevant people > >>> give > >>> summaries of the work that's been contributed and then answer > >>> questions. > >>> > >>> Given the geographic dispersion, getting a time nailed down will be > >>> tough. > >>> How does 8:00AM CST on Tuesday the 23rd work for everyone? > >>> > >>> -Nick > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Nicholas Gallardo > >>> WebSphere - REST& WebServices Development > >>> [email protected] > >>> Phone: 512-286-6258 > >>> Building: 903 / 5G-016 > >> > > -- - Bryant Luk
