Thanks Dims,

Since I called for the meeting, I'll take responsibility for getting the
info for the meeting posted and for getting summaries documented and
posted.

-Nick



Nicholas Gallardo
WebSphere  - REST & WebServices Development
[email protected]
Phone: 512-286-6258
Building: 903 / 5G-016


                                                                       
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Eli,

The goal is to be as open as possible and post as many things as possible
ahead of time, anything/everything to
facilitate an off-line discussion and ensure broadest participation.

* Any documents, please post URL's to wink-dev@ before the meeting (google
docs or wiki or JIRA or anywhere else public
is ok)
* Come up with some sort of agenda items that needs to be discussed (this
can be done on the wiki)
* Set up a specific start/stop time for the meeting so everyone can plan to
be there at least for that duration.
* Please post the date/time of the IRC meeting, agenda and pointers to any
documents.
* Someone should volunteer to keep the meeting on track
* Come up with proposals and possible solutions or action items for agenda
items
* Post all above in logical chunks to wink-dev@ and ask for closure on the
mailing list. This helps people who cannot
attend the IRC chat and still want to participate
* When the chat winds down, please post the log to wink-dev.

thanks,
dims



On 06/18/2009 01:53 PM, Baram, Eliezer wrote:
> Dim,
> I'm new to IRC meeting and I try to figure out the right format that will
make this meeting work.
> I would call the meeting successful if valid questions will be raised
during the conference and a discussion will be made.
>
> How do you recommend to run the IRC meeting ?
>
> If we were running the meeting In a conference call with an ability to
share documents (by Google document for instance, or sent earlier by mail)
I would format this meeting in a way where the contributors of the
submissions would present their submission. These presentations would
hopefully raise questions, and a discussion will be created. What can be an
IRC alternative to this in order to trigger such discussion?
>
> Thanks,
> Eli
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 5:57 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Architecture Q&A Call
>
> Nick,
>
> Yes, please use IRC and post the transcript to the mailing list.
>
> No, you cannot make decisions on the IRC chat, you need to post what ever
you are proposing on the mailing list and VOTE
> on it (72 hours etc as usual)
>
> thanks,
> dims
>
> On 06/18/2009 10:45 AM, Nicholas L Gallardo wrote:
>> Jason, you (and anyone else for that matter) are absolutely invited,
should
>> have made that point clear.  I mentioned it on the list for exactly that
>> reason though.
>>
>> I agree that calls are not typical for the Apache projects I've seen
>> either.  But, it was proposed as a means to try to work through the
issues
>> quickly and to get everyone acquainted.  Most discussion will obviously
>> happen on the mailing lists.  But, we need to come to a decision quickly
on
>> the base code as that's holding up any other work.  If the community
would
>> rather handle it via IRC then we can do that.  If done on IRC, do you
just
>> copy/paste the transcript somewhere for people to comment on later?
>>
>> Mentors, any suggestions here for how to have synchronous work sessions
to
>> get through discussions quickly?
>>
>> -Nick
>>
>>
>>
>> Nicholas Gallardo
>> WebSphere  - REST&   WebServices Development
>> [email protected]
>> Phone: 512-286-6258
>> Building: 903 / 5G-016
>>
>>
>>
>>                Jason Dillon
>>                <[email protected]
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>>                                          Re: Architecture Q&A Call
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I think I can make that, if I'm invited of course.
>>
>> Though along those lines, typically "calls" aren't really used that
>> much by the Apache community... IRC at times has even been a stretch,
>> though I think many communities use it for regular group
>> communications.  It may be construed as a bad sign if the first major
>> discussion is effectively offline.  Perhaps if a transcript of the
>> call was recorded somewhere, on this list, it might fly.  Otherwise
>> it may be better from a community perspective to hold this meeting
>> over IRC on freenode.net.  But I'm unsure, we'll let the mentors chime
>> in more on this.
>>
>> I do think there needs to be more discussion on the merits of both
>> codebases before a descison is made.
>>
>> Hope this helps...
>>
>> --jason
>>
>>
>> On Jun 18, 2009, at 8:57 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> I think it would be useful to have a call next week for some Q&A
>>> regarding
>>> the two runtimes and architectures.  We can have the relevant people
>>> give
>>> summaries of the work that's been contributed and then answer
>>> questions.
>>>
>>> Given the geographic dispersion, getting a time nailed down will be
>>> tough.
>>> How does 8:00AM CST on Tuesday the 23rd work for everyone?
>>>
>>> -Nick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nicholas Gallardo
>>> WebSphere  - REST&   WebServices Development
>>> [email protected]
>>> Phone: 512-286-6258
>>> Building: 903 / 5G-016
>>

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