Mike (rott) registered it with ChanServ a few days ago. On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Jason Dillon<[email protected]> wrote: > Is #apache-wink a registered channel on freenode yet? > > --jason > > > On Jun 19, 2009, at 11:56 PM, Bryant Luk <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I did a quick wiki page for the agenda at: >> >> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WINK/Architecture+Meeting+And+Agenda >> >> >> <http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WINK/Architecture+Meeting+And+Agenda>Please >> add anything you wish to discuss. I added some initial goals in a >> somewhat >> logical order (like short term goals first then choose architecture) that >> we >> should discuss them. >> >> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Thanks Dims, >>> >>> Since I called for the meeting, I'll take responsibility for getting the >>> info for the meeting posted and for getting summaries documented and >>> posted. >>> >>> >>> -Nick >>> >>> >>> >>> Nicholas Gallardo >>> WebSphere - REST & WebServices Development >>> [email protected] >>> Phone: 512-286-6258 >>> Building: 903 / 5G-016 >>> [image: Inactive hide details for Davanum Srinivas <[email protected]>] >>> Davanum Srinivas <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> >>> *Davanum Srinivas <[email protected]>* >>> >>> 06/18/2009 02:47 PM >>> Please respond to >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> To >>> >>> [email protected] >>> cc >>> >>> >>> Subject >>> >>> Re: Architecture Q&A Call >>> >>> Eli, >>> >>> The goal is to be as open as possible and post as many things as possible >>> ahead of time, anything/everything to >>> facilitate an off-line discussion and ensure broadest participation. >>> >>> * Any documents, please post URL's to wink-dev@ before the meeting >>> (google >>> docs or wiki or JIRA or anywhere else public >>> is ok) >>> * Come up with some sort of agenda items that needs to be discussed (this >>> can be done on the wiki) >>> * Set up a specific start/stop time for the meeting so everyone can plan >>> to >>> be there at least for that duration. >>> * Please post the date/time of the IRC meeting, agenda and pointers to >>> any >>> documents. >>> * Someone should volunteer to keep the meeting on track >>> * Come up with proposals and possible solutions or action items for >>> agenda >>> items >>> * Post all above in logical chunks to wink-dev@ and ask for closure on >>> the >>> mailing list. This helps people who cannot >>> attend the IRC chat and still want to participate >>> * When the chat winds down, please post the log to wink-dev. >>> >>> thanks, >>> dims >>> >>> >>> >>> On 06/18/2009 01:53 PM, Baram, Eliezer wrote: >>>> >>>> Dim, >>>> I'm new to IRC meeting and I try to figure out the right format that >>>> will >>> >>> make this meeting work. >>>> >>>> I would call the meeting successful if valid questions will be raised >>> >>> during the conference and a discussion will be made. >>>> >>>> How do you recommend to run the IRC meeting ? >>>> >>>> If we were running the meeting In a conference call with an ability to >>> >>> share documents (by Google document for instance, or sent earlier by >>> mail) I >>> would format this meeting in a way where the contributors of the >>> submissions >>> would present their submission. These presentations would hopefully raise >>> questions, and a discussion will be created. What can be an IRC >>> alternative >>> to this in order to trigger such discussion? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Eli >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 5:57 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: Architecture Q&A Call >>>> >>>> Nick, >>>> >>>> Yes, please use IRC and post the transcript to the mailing list. >>>> >>>> No, you cannot make decisions on the IRC chat, you need to post what >>>> ever >>> >>> you are proposing on the mailing list and VOTE >>>> >>>> on it (72 hours etc as usual) >>>> >>>> thanks, >>>> dims >>>> >>>> On 06/18/2009 10:45 AM, Nicholas L Gallardo wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Jason, you (and anyone else for that matter) are absolutely invited, >>> >>> should >>>>> >>>>> have made that point clear. I mentioned it on the list for exactly >>>>> that >>>>> reason though. >>>>> >>>>> I agree that calls are not typical for the Apache projects I've seen >>>>> either. But, it was proposed as a means to try to work through the >>> >>> issues >>>>> >>>>> quickly and to get everyone acquainted. Most discussion will obviously >>>>> happen on the mailing lists. But, we need to come to a decision >>>>> quickly >>> >>> on >>>>> >>>>> the base code as that's holding up any other work. If the community >>> >>> would >>>>> >>>>> rather handle it via IRC then we can do that. If done on IRC, do you >>> >>> just >>>>> >>>>> copy/paste the transcript somewhere for people to comment on later? >>>>> >>>>> Mentors, any suggestions here for how to have synchronous work sessions >>> >>> to >>>>> >>>>> get through discussions quickly? >>>>> >>>>> -Nick >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Nicholas Gallardo >>>>> WebSphere - REST& WebServices Development >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> Phone: 512-286-6258 >>>>> Building: 903 / 5G-016 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Jason Dillon >>>>> <[email protected] >>>>> om> >>> >>> To >>>>> >>>>> Sent by: Jason [email protected] >>>>> Dillon >>> >>> cc >>>>> >>>>> <jason.dil...@gma >>>>> il.com> >>> >>> Subject >>>>> >>>>> Re: Architecture Q&A Call >>>>> >>>>> 06/18/2009 09:11 >>>>> AM >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Please respond to >>>>> wink-...@incubato >>>>> r.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I think I can make that, if I'm invited of course. >>>>> >>>>> Though along those lines, typically "calls" aren't really used that >>>>> much by the Apache community... IRC at times has even been a stretch, >>>>> though I think many communities use it for regular group >>>>> communications. It may be construed as a bad sign if the first major >>>>> discussion is effectively offline. Perhaps if a transcript of the >>>>> call was recorded somewhere, on this list, it might fly. Otherwise >>>>> it may be better from a community perspective to hold this meeting >>>>> over IRC on freenode.net. But I'm unsure, we'll let the mentors chime >>>>> in more on this. >>>>> >>>>> I do think there needs to be more discussion on the merits of both >>>>> codebases before a descison is made. >>>>> >>>>> Hope this helps... >>>>> >>>>> --jason >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 18, 2009, at 8:57 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> All, >>>>>> >>>>>> I think it would be useful to have a call next week for some Q&A >>>>>> regarding >>>>>> the two runtimes and architectures. We can have the relevant people >>>>>> give >>>>>> summaries of the work that's been contributed and then answer >>>>>> questions. >>>>>> >>>>>> Given the geographic dispersion, getting a time nailed down will be >>>>>> tough. >>>>>> How does 8:00AM CST on Tuesday the 23rd work for everyone? >>>>>> >>>>>> -Nick >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Nicholas Gallardo >>>>>> WebSphere - REST& WebServices Development >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> Phone: 512-286-6258 >>>>>> Building: 903 / 5G-016 >>>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> - Bryant Luk >
-- - Bryant Luk
