Is #apache-wink a registered channel on freenode yet?

--jason


On Jun 19, 2009, at 11:56 PM, Bryant Luk <[email protected]> wrote:

I did a quick wiki page for the agenda at:
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WINK/Architecture+Meeting+And+Agenda

<http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WINK/Architecture+Meeting+And+Agenda >Please add anything you wish to discuss. I added some initial goals in a somewhat logical order (like short term goals first then choose architecture) that we
should discuss them.

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo <[email protected] >wrote:

Thanks Dims,

Since I called for the meeting, I'll take responsibility for getting the info for the meeting posted and for getting summaries documented and posted.


-Nick



Nicholas Gallardo
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Phone: 512-286-6258
Building: 903 / 5G-016
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Eli,

The goal is to be as open as possible and post as many things as possible
ahead of time, anything/everything to
facilitate an off-line discussion and ensure broadest participation.

* Any documents, please post URL's to wink-dev@ before the meeting (google
docs or wiki or JIRA or anywhere else public
is ok)
* Come up with some sort of agenda items that needs to be discussed (this
can be done on the wiki)
* Set up a specific start/stop time for the meeting so everyone can plan to
be there at least for that duration.
* Please post the date/time of the IRC meeting, agenda and pointers to any
documents.
* Someone should volunteer to keep the meeting on track
* Come up with proposals and possible solutions or action items for agenda
items
* Post all above in logical chunks to wink-dev@ and ask for closure on the
mailing list. This helps people who cannot
attend the IRC chat and still want to participate
* When the chat winds down, please post the log to wink-dev.

thanks,
dims



On 06/18/2009 01:53 PM, Baram, Eliezer wrote:
Dim,
I'm new to IRC meeting and I try to figure out the right format that will
make this meeting work.
I would call the meeting successful if valid questions will be raised
during the conference and a discussion will be made.

How do you recommend to run the IRC meeting ?

If we were running the meeting In a conference call with an ability to
share documents (by Google document for instance, or sent earlier by mail) I would format this meeting in a way where the contributors of the submissions would present their submission. These presentations would hopefully raise questions, and a discussion will be created. What can be an IRC alternative
to this in order to trigger such discussion?

Thanks,
Eli

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From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>]
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 5:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Architecture Q&A Call

Nick,

Yes, please use IRC and post the transcript to the mailing list.

No, you cannot make decisions on the IRC chat, you need to post what ever
you are proposing on the mailing list and VOTE
on it (72 hours etc as usual)

thanks,
dims

On 06/18/2009 10:45 AM, Nicholas L Gallardo wrote:
Jason, you (and anyone else for that matter) are absolutely invited,
should
have made that point clear. I mentioned it on the list for exactly that
reason though.

I agree that calls are not typical for the Apache projects I've seen
either.  But, it was proposed as a means to try to work through the
issues
quickly and to get everyone acquainted. Most discussion will obviously happen on the mailing lists. But, we need to come to a decision quickly
on
the base code as that's holding up any other work. If the community
would
rather handle it via IRC then we can do that. If done on IRC, do you
just
copy/paste the transcript somewhere for people to comment on later?

Mentors, any suggestions here for how to have synchronous work sessions
to
get through discussions quickly?

-Nick



Nicholas Gallardo
WebSphere  - REST&   WebServices Development
[email protected]
Phone: 512-286-6258
Building: 903 / 5G-016



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I think I can make that, if I'm invited of course.

Though along those lines, typically "calls" aren't really used that
much by the Apache community... IRC at times has even been a stretch,
though I think many communities use it for regular group
communications. It may be construed as a bad sign if the first major
discussion is effectively offline.  Perhaps if a transcript of the
call was recorded somewhere, on this list, it might fly.  Otherwise
it may be better from a community perspective to hold this meeting
over IRC on freenode.net. But I'm unsure, we'll let the mentors chime
in more on this.

I do think there needs to be more discussion on the merits of both
codebases before a descison is made.

Hope this helps...

--jason


On Jun 18, 2009, at 8:57 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo wrote:

All,

I think it would be useful to have a call next week for some Q&A
regarding
the two runtimes and architectures. We can have the relevant people
give
summaries of the work that's been contributed and then answer
questions.

Given the geographic dispersion, getting a time nailed down will be
tough.
How does 8:00AM CST on Tuesday the 23rd work for everyone?

-Nick



Nicholas Gallardo
WebSphere  - REST&   WebServices Development
[email protected]
Phone: 512-286-6258
Building: 903 / 5G-016





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