[Winona Online Democracy] Kathy -
Should not any downtown spaces be reserved for future retail...specialties such as antique shops, bookstores, and other tourist-interest establishments? Once the former Thrifty White is retrofitted with rooms and bathrooms, etc., it would be difficult to swallow the financial investment and return it to shopping space. Besides, who would like to live in that windowless area? The Winona Downtown Group is making a valiant effort at promoting Winona's Historical downtown area... so it would not be wise to undermine their efforts. Perhaps the County, which owns the building, could find renters for that space? Another thought regarding downtown...the former Goodroads building might become an excellent upscale hotel? The former ambulance service area may just be the answer to a Huber facility...and consider the nearby area for parking...for county employees? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Seifert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [Winona] County Huber Jail Facility: Where to locate it? > [Winona Online Democracy] > > Wow, I"m intrigued by the fears this idea brings up. My understanding is > that Huber inmates are by definition, not a danger to the community or else > they would not be released for work. Now, I'm a person who has had the > opportunity to get to know several felons over the years because of the kind > of work I do. Most (like most mentally ill, I might add) are not dangerous > at all, but have made poor choices--often under the influence of > alcohol--that lead to their law breaking behavior and consequences. > > What kind of offenses are we talking about here? A guy convicted for > several drunk driving offenses who has completed treatment and is taking > antabuse? You'd be surprized how many people out there might fit that > "category" and these are people we all know, but we just might not know them > well enough to know those particular facts about his or her life. These can > often be the people who actually turn their lives around as a result of > their contact with the system > > Would these folks really pose a danger to the downtown inhabitants or is > this just a stereotype that we have of individuals involved in the criminal > justice system? I also would hope that either the folks who propose such > options or the County Board who considers them would have the wisdom to > consider the public's welfare before it gets to this point. > > I think it is more honest to say "we don't like the image it presents to > have a 'jail' in the middle of downtown." Or we could be wonderfully brave > and creative to try an idea like this and promote the heck of how great it > works and how special we are for it!!!!! > > Just my 2 cents. > > Kathy Seifert > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Dwayne Voegeli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:56 PM > Subject: RE: [Winona] County Huber Jail Facility: Where to locate it? > > > > [Winona Online Democracy] > > > > Certainly these questions always bring out the NIMN (not in my > neighborhood crowd) and, with my mother next door to Thrifty White at > Winhaven, I have heard those objections. However, if for no other reason, > isn't the concern and anxiety among the residents there a vulnerability all > by itself and a reason to consider some other neighborhood? > > > > Richard N. Cocker > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dwayne Voegeli) wrote: > > > > >[Winona Online Democracy] > > > > > >Hello Winona Online Democracy, > > > > > >Tonight the County Board will discuss the pros and cons of where to > > >possibly locate a huber jail facility. I'd like to hear your thoughts on > > >where the facility should be located. > > > > > >Some Quick Background: > > > > > >----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. As of June 19th, the County has spent $161,350 for housing inmates in > > >other jail facilities outside of Winona County. > > > > > >2. We may be able to reduce some of those costs by developing a short > term > > >solution that would house huber inmates at a different facility and thus > > >freeing up bed space for other kinds of prisoners. > > > > > >3. Huber inmates are generally people who are not viewed as a threat to > > >anyone and who are allowed to be released to go to work during the day. > > >They must then report back to the jail after work. > > > > > >4. There would be some additional staff costs associated with this move > > >but they would supposedly be outweighed by the cost savings. > > > > > >5. This is NOT a new jail. That kind of headline appeared in the Winona > > >Daily News a few weeks ago and may have misled some people. The question > > >of building a new jail is a whole other issue unto itself and something > > >maybe we can discuss at a later date. A huber facility is a short term > > >solution only for one kind of inmate. > > > > > >----- > > > > > >The three sights that the Jail Action Committee has suggested are: > > > > > >1. The Thrifty White Plaza. > > > > > >2. The Counties Maintenance Department Building, a.k.a the Nystrom > > >Building. It's located next to the Environmental Services Building. > > > > > >3. The Extension Service Offices in the County Office Building. That is > > >the building where you get your licenses and tabs renewed. The Extension > > >Offices are the other half of the ground floor space, the same level as > the > > >License Center. > > > > > >----- > > > > > >Each building has it's own unique set of advantages and disadvantages. > > > > > >Of those three sights, where would you put a Huber Jail Facility? > > > > > >What issues do you think need to be considered? > > > > > >Would you look into a Huber Jail Facility in the first place? Other > options? > > > > > >Are there other building options you would consider? > > > > > >Other general thoughts? > > > > > >Thank you for your input. > > > > > >Dwayne Voegeli > > > > > > > > > > > >------------ > > > > > >Dwayne Voegeli > > > > > >Winona County Commissioner, District #2 > > > > > >(507) 453-9012 > > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >870 44th Ave. > > >Winona, MN 55987 > > > > > >------------ > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >This message was posted to Winona Online Democracy > > >All messages must be signed by the senders actual name. > > >No commercial solicitations are allowed on this list. > > >To manage your subscription or view the message archives, please visit > > >http://mapnp.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/winona > > >Any problems or suggestions can be directed to > > >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >If you want help on how to contact elected officials, go to the Contact > page at > > > http://www.winonaonlinedemocracy.org > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. > > Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. 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