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Don't forget what a fine example of heterosexuality Britney and company are, too. I missed George Will's endorsement of gay marriage in the Times, but did catch David Brooks' endorsement. And here the only thing I thought George Will and I had in common was a love of baseball!

I'm afraid we will be seeing lots more incendiary letters about polygamy and bestilality (and whatever else there is) as we move further into the election cycle. Red herrings all.
Vicki Englich

On Sunday, February 8, 2004, at 05:29 PM, Bob Sebo wrote:

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this eloquent rhetoric wasn't intended for Paul alone!
 
bob
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Sebo
To: Paul Double
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Winona] Is it time for the discussion? Polygamy

Paul...bless your heart for bringing for extending the culture war discussion from hip hop to gay marriage...there will be more and more attempts made as the election approaches to connect such disparate contentious social issues, I think. 
 
There has been some local impact from both events.  I saw WKBT had a letter to the editor in the WDN apologizing profusely for broadcasting the incident...but they had no way of knowing it was coming. 
 
Gay marriage has, interestingly, produced very little discussion generally...some letters in the paper, some statements from local politicians (but not very many, you notice) and, of course, the Catholic church...this is so far an issue that most folks think doesn't really affect them one way or the other...
 
That's why there will be a concerted effort for the next several years by social conservatives to vilify homosexuals and compare their behavior to say, Janet Jackson...some early 19th century Utah residents...or lonely shephards.
 
Then in a couple of years, when Minnesota courts are considering the issue or the US SC does it, the groundwork will be laid.  They'll start running TV ads with Mardi Gras footage and say "look at these people!  Look at the cesspool!"  We should examine the tactics of southern Democrats when fighting The Civil Rights Act of 1964(?).  I bet Karl Rove already has.
 
This is really a national issue, but I thank Paul for bringing it up here...and reminding us not to allow specious arguments to connect dissimilar issues.
 
Public lewd behavior, as was confirmed by Ms. Jackson and Mr. Timberlake, is not confined to the gay and lesbian comunity.  A marriage can be a contractual relationship between two people that is recognized by the state.  By its nature it cannot encompass polygamous relationships because it is a contractual relationship between two people, and bigamy laws would apply, as well.  It could not include a bestialitive (is that what it would be called...I don't write about these things very often)
relationship, because it is a contractual relationship between two people.
 
If you can find it, read George Will's excellent endorsement of gay marriage in The New Yor Times (does anyone have a link?).
 
Vicki...as you can see I am still full of both "it" and myself!
 
Bob Sebo
Winona
 
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Double
To: Online Democracy
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 3:02 PM
Subject: [Winona] Is it time for the discussion? Polygamy

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SinceMassachusettssame sex marriage approval every aspect of the legal and fundamental rights of people and the obligation of business and government on healthcare will be stretched and discussed this year and beyond.  The question becomes why stop the discussion with such a limited perspective as same sex when the next expansion of marriage or defense of it and related issues such as healthcare dependent coverage could be the move and approval of polygamy or Polygyny.

 

Will the courts accept polygamy but outlaw Polygyny?  Will insurance forms need to be revised to read spouse(s)? Will the first in line be entitled to inherit the entire estate?  Who gets to make critical health care decisions?  Can they be made with a simple majority or will it take 2/3’s approval?

Will the Canadian’s accept our wives or husbands or do we care?

 

Is this a local issue or national on a cold winter day?

 

Paul Double

 

  



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