i meant to refer to mr. brooks, vicki...george
seems to have trouble making up his mind...and he is still refering to
polygamy...see his latest column
bob
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 7:04
PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [Winona] Is it time for
the discussion? Polygamy
[Winona Online Democracy]
Don't forget what a fine example of heterosexuality Britney and company
are, too. I missed George Will's endorsement of gay marriage in the Times, but
did catch David Brooks' endorsement. And here the only thing I thought George
Will and I had in common was a love of baseball!
I'm afraid we will be
seeing lots more incendiary letters about polygamy and bestilality (and
whatever else there is) as we move further into the election cycle. Red
herrings all.
Vicki Englich
On Sunday, February 8, 2004, at 05:29
PM, Bob Sebo wrote:
[Winona Online Democracy]
this eloquent
rhetoric wasn't intended for Paul
alone!
bob
-----
Original Message -----
From: Bob
Sebo
To: Paul
Double
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 5:28
PM
Subject: Re: [Winona] Is it time for the discussion?
Polygamy
Paul...bless your heart
for bringing for extending the culture war discussion from hip hop to gay
marriage...there will be more and more attempts made as the election
approaches to connect such disparate contentious social issues, I
think.
There
has been some local impact from both events. I saw WKBT had a letter
to the editor in the WDN apologizing profusely for broadcasting the
incident...but they had no way of knowing it was coming.
Gay
marriage has, interestingly, produced very little discussion
generally...some letters in the paper, some statements from local
politicians (but not very many, you notice) and, of course, the Catholic
church...this is so far an issue that most folks think doesn't really affect
them one way or the other...
That's
why there will be a concerted effort for the next several years by
social conservatives to vilify homosexuals and compare their behavior to
say, Janet Jackson...some early 19th century Utah residents...or lonely
shephards.
Then
in a couple of years, when Minnesota courts are considering the issue or the
US SC does it, the groundwork will be laid. They'll start running TV
ads with Mardi Gras footage and say "look at these people! Look at the
cesspool!" We should examine the tactics of southern Democrats when
fighting The Civil Rights Act of 1964(?). I bet Karl Rove already has.
This
is really a national issue, but I thank Paul for bringing it up here...and
reminding us not to allow specious arguments to connect dissimilar issues.
Public
lewd behavior, as was confirmed by Ms. Jackson and Mr. Timberlake, is not
confined to the gay and lesbian comunity. A marriage can
be a contractual relationship between two people that is recognized by
the state. By its nature it cannot encompass polygamous relationships
because it is a contractual relationship between two people, and bigamy laws
would apply, as well. It could not include a bestialitive (is that
what it would be called...I don't write about these things very often)
relationship,
because it is a contractual relationship between two people.
If
you can find it, read George Will's excellent endorsement of gay marriage in
The New Yor Times (does anyone have a
link?).
Vicki...as
you can see I am still full of both "it" and myself!
Bob
Sebo
Winona
-----
Original Message -----
From:
Paul Double
To: Online
Democracy
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 3:02
PM
Subject: [Winona] Is it time for the discussion?
Polygamy
[Winona Online
Democracy]
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SinceMassachusettssame sex
marriage approval every aspect of the legal and fundamental rights of people
and the obligation of business and government on healthcare will be
stretched and discussed this year and beyond. The question becomes why
stop the discussion with such a limited perspective as same sex when the
next expansion of marriage or defense of it and related issues such as
healthcare dependent coverage could be the move and approval of polygamy or
Polygyny.
Will
the courts accept polygamy but outlaw Polygyny? Will insurance forms
need to be revised to read spouse(s)? Will the first in line be entitled to
inherit the entire estate? Who gets to make critical health care
decisions? Can they be made with a simple majority or will it take
2/3�s approval?
Will
the Canadian�s accept our wives or husbands or do we care?
Is
this a local issue or national on a cold winter day?
Paul
Double
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