[Winona Online Democracy]

What would be the response if men wore the same button the ladies are
wearing?

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Subject: Re: [Winona] Re: students' freedom of speech


[Winona Online Democracy]

That's a great point and to further comment adam crowsons opinion,
being in college doesn't make you more mature.  This girl should be
albe to wear a button that says vagina or labia or clitoris or uterus
or breast or eye or knee.  They are body parts, nothing more.  I
personally think that if she is attempting to make some statement with
the pin, then we should encourage her.  The one thing that bothers me
most about young people including myself is our very obvious apathy.
If you think it doesn't exist, read adams email again.

Now, the problem isn't your daughters; it isn't women; it isn't even
the button. The problem is that by wearing the button, the word
"vagina" will have 300 of Winona Senior High's "finest" laughing and
disrupting class because someone is wearing something that says
"vagina" and that's apparently funny.

First of all he's downlplaying every person in that high school with
the "finest" tag. Second, he's apparently assuming that from now to
eternity this girls button will just get laughs. He's saying that her
self awareness will do nothing but incite laughter among students.  I
couldn't disagree with this more. I for one encourage her and any
other young person that wants to make a statement about society in a
way that HARMS NO ONE.

justin dexheimer

is department
winona health

M.I.S.O. Department tutor
Winona State University

507-317-5578
On 4/22/05, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [Winona Online Democracy]
>
> On Apr 22, 2005, at 16:50, Adam Crowson wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> >  You're at school to learn, not to wear a button that says vagina so
> > you can prove some point that no one cares about because they're too
> > busy laughing at the fact that someone is wearing a button that says
> > vagina. I don't gamble, but I'd bet that only a small handful of kids
> > actually care about the statement Rethlefson is trying to make.
>
> [snip]
>
> > --
> > Adam Crowson, Editor-in-Chief
> > Winonan
> > Winona State University
> > Kryzsko Commons
> > Winona, MN 55987
> > (507)457-5119
> >  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> If it were only that simple...
>
> Are you trying to tell me that all you did in high school was "learn?"
> I doubt that, so why the oversimplification?
>
> While the stated purpose of a school system may be to educate students,
> there are also many unintended and unacknowledged "events" that form
> the educational experience. I find it unlikely, even if the prison time
> were a penalty for leaving school, that anyone would stay in high
> school, if the only thing that you where there to do would be to learn.
>
>
> David Dittmann
>
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