[Winona Online Democracy] I would be as in favor of that as i would of the original argument. I had said earlier that in order to be in favor of free speech what you really need to be in favor of is people voicing opinions you may not agree with or believe are factual etc... I admittedly stole most of that idea from a Noam Chomsky lecture i had read recently but I couldn't agree more. I don't' think the question you really want to pose is if some boy had a button saying i love vagina's. What I think you are getting at is the voicing of an opinion that exists but for some reason is frowned upon in our culture. I for one think there would be nothing wrong with a heightened sense of sexual awareness at a high school level. If all of these sexual undertones that exist within our culture (i would argue even more so within a state of puberty) were brought out I think it would have a positive impact on peoples self images. I also think it would help with thoughts like this. Let's say that a boy has this "i love vagina" button, and he wears it too school the same day as a girl decides to wear a "i love penis" button. Which do you think would get more attention? Do you think they would both be thought of the same? I would definitely say not. So I guess in a long winded way (sorry), my point is that it's an opinion and it's theirs to express. The fact that it's dealing with sexuality is what brings up all kinds of "decency" arguments, but it's her right to express what she feels as much as it would for any boy to do the same with a button expressing his sexuality. justin dexheimer
is department winona health M.I.S.O. Department tutor Winona State University 507-317-5578 On 4/22/05, Tom Severson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Winona Online Democracy] > > What would your comment be if Boys wore buttons that said "I Love Vaginas"? > It is still freedom of speech. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of David > Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 6:01 PM > To: Winona Online Democracy > Subject: Re: [Winona] Re: students' freedom of speech > > [Winona Online Democracy] > > On Apr 22, 2005, at 16:50, Adam Crowson wrote: > > [snip] > > > You're at school to learn, not to wear a button that says vagina so > > you can prove some point that no one cares about because they're too > > busy laughing at the fact that someone is wearing a button that says > > vagina. I don't gamble, but I'd bet that only a small handful of kids > > actually care about the statement Rethlefson is trying to make. > > [snip] > > > -- > > Adam Crowson, Editor-in-Chief > > Winonan > > Winona State University > > Kryzsko Commons > > Winona, MN 55987 > > (507)457-5119 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > If it were only that simple... > > Are you trying to tell me that all you did in high school was "learn?" > I doubt that, so why the oversimplification? > > While the stated purpose of a school system may be to educate students, > there are also many unintended and unacknowledged "events" that form > the educational experience. I find it unlikely, even if the prison time > were a penalty for leaving school, that anyone would stay in high > school, if the only thing that you where there to do would be to learn. > > David Dittmann > > _______________________________________________ > This message was posted to Winona Online Democracy > All messages must be signed by the senders actual name. > No commercial solicitations are allowed on this list. > To manage your subscription or view the message archives, please visit > http://mapnp.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/winona > Any problems or suggestions can be directed to > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you want help on how to contact elected officials, go to the Contact page > at > http://www.winonaonlinedemocracy.org > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.859 / Virus Database: 585 - Release Date: 2/14/2005 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.859 / Virus Database: 585 - Release Date: 2/14/2005 > > > _______________________________________________ > This message was posted to Winona Online Democracy > All messages must be signed by the senders actual name. > No commercial solicitations are allowed on this list. > To manage your subscription or view the message archives, please visit > http://mapnp.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/winona > Any problems or suggestions can be directed to > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you want help on how to contact elected officials, go to the Contact page > at > http://www.winonaonlinedemocracy.org > _______________________________________________ This message was posted to Winona Online Democracy All messages must be signed by the senders actual name. No commercial solicitations are allowed on this list. To manage your subscription or view the message archives, please visit http://mapnp.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/winona Any problems or suggestions can be directed to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you want help on how to contact elected officials, go to the Contact page at http://www.winonaonlinedemocracy.org
