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all i'm saying is there are immature people all over that laugh when they see the names of sex organs. i feel bad for the teacher that has to channel a classroom full of students who are only focusing on something they think is funny.

On 4/23/05, justin dexheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[Winona Online Democracy]

I think I've stated my stance abstractly enough for one to make a
conjecture about what i would think.  I'm just wondering what
realistic harm anyone sees in the original instance?

On 4/22/05, Tom Severson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What would be the response if men wore the same button the ladies are
> wearing?
>
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> Subject: Re: [Winona] Re: students' freedom of speech
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> That's a great point and to further comment adam crowsons opinion,
> being in college doesn't make you more mature.  This girl should be
> albe to wear a button that says vagina or labia or clitoris or uterus
> or breast or eye or knee.  They are body parts, nothing more.  I
> personally think that if she is attempting to make some statement with
> the pin, then we should encourage her.  The one thing that bothers me
> most about young people including myself is our very obvious apathy.
> If you think it doesn't exist, read adams email again.
>
> Now, the problem isn't your daughters; it isn't women; it isn't even
> the button. The problem is that by wearing the button, the word
> "vagina" will have 300 of Winona Senior High's "finest" laughing and
> disrupting class because someone is wearing something that says
> "vagina" and that's apparently funny.
>
> First of all he's downlplaying every person in that high school with
> the "finest" tag. Second, he's apparently assuming that from now to
> eternity this girls button will just get laughs. He's saying that her
> self awareness will do nothing but incite laughter among students.  I
> couldn't disagree with this more. I for one encourage her and any
> other young person that wants to make a statement about society in a
> way that HARMS NO ONE.
>
> justin dexheimer
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> On 4/22/05, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [Winona Online Democracy]
> >
> > On Apr 22, 2005, at 16:50, Adam Crowson wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > >  You're at school to learn, not to wear a button that says vagina so
> > > you can prove some point that no one cares about because they're too
> > > busy laughing at the fact that someone is wearing a button that says
> > > vagina. I don't gamble, but I'd bet that only a small handful of kids
> > > actually care about the statement Rethlefson is trying to make.
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > --
> > > Adam Crowson, Editor-in-Chief
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> > If it were only that simple...
> >
> > Are you trying to tell me that all you did in high school was "learn?"
> > I doubt that, so why the oversimplification?
> >
> > While the stated purpose of a school system may be to educate students,
> > there are also many unintended and unacknowledged "events" that form
> > the educational experience. I find it unlikely, even if the prison time
> > were a penalty for leaving school, that anyone would stay in high
> > school, if the only thing that you where there to do would be to learn.
> >
> >
> > David Dittmann
> >
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