[Winona Online Democracy] I think Bryon is talking about dollars in the private sector. He states at the end of his post that school administrators in Minnesota (not in charter schools, however) are making about 4 to 1 over the average teacher salary. That's probably correct. His statements about private sector top administrator salary compared to the "worker bee" pay is pretty accurate too.
-Leslie Hittner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Seifert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Paul Double" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Online Democracy" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Winona] School Administrators/NPR bias > [Winona Online Democracy] > > I think he was speaking of the number of administrators (principals) for > each teacher within the district--we are talking about people, not dollars > :)!! That's the heart of the problem--if it's only about the bottom line > dollar and not about the quality of the product, we'll never be talking > about the same thing. I'm sure we can operate a school district with less > and less over the years, but at what point does it become a school district > that produces little of value and why in the world would that be our goal? > > Kathy Seifert > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Double" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Online Democracy" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 4:56 PM > Subject: FW: [Winona] School Administrators/NPR bias > > > [Winona Online Democracy] > > Bryon > > Are we missing something from your post? > > 460 to 1 or in real dollars Administrators are making $13.8 million dollars > if the teacher is paid $30,000 or even $1.38 million using 46 to 1? > > Even your ratio of 4 to 1 I find hard to believe. Maybe the Minneapolis or > St. Paul school district superintendents in the Twin Cities are pulling > those ratios but not in Greater Minnesota. > > Paul Double > > > Behalf Of Bothuns > Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 4:25 PM > > [Winona Online Democracy] > > I'm sorry, but when I read somewhere that the solution to our education > problems is simply to cut spending, on anything, I just have to laugh, and > then cry. Right now countries like Colombia, Malaysia and Hungry already > outspend the US on Education as a percentage of GDP. No disrespect > intended, but should we assume that it is OK to come in behind those > countries and still claim to be the leaders of the free world? > > When the average Principal to Teacher pay ratio hits 460 to 1, as it is in > the private sector, or perhaps just 46 to 1, like it was in the US private > sector just 20 years ago, then I'll get interested in cutting administrative > > expenditures. Right now it stands at about 4 to 1 in Minnesota which > clearly implies that it needs to go up not down. > > Bryon Bothun > > > > _______________________________________________ > This message was posted to Winona Online Democracy > All messages must be signed by the senders actual name. > No commercial solicitations are allowed on this list. > To manage your subscription or view the message archives, please visit > http://mapnp.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/winona > Any problems or suggestions can be directed to > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you want help on how to contact elected officials, go to the Contact page > at > http://www.winonaonlinedemocracy.org > _______________________________________________ > This message was posted to Winona Online Democracy > All messages must be signed by the senders actual name. > No commercial solicitations are allowed on this list. > To manage your subscription or view the message archives, please visit > http://mapnp.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/winona > Any problems or suggestions can be directed to > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you want help on how to contact elected officials, go to the Contact page at > http://www.winonaonlinedemocracy.org > _______________________________________________ This message was posted to Winona Online Democracy All messages must be signed by the senders actual name. No commercial solicitations are allowed on this list. To manage your subscription or view the message archives, please visit http://mapnp.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/winona Any problems or suggestions can be directed to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you want help on how to contact elected officials, go to the Contact page at http://www.winonaonlinedemocracy.org
