[Winona Online Democracy]
Paul,
It depends a little bit on the measure you use. The fully burdened cost of
employment for a 1st year principal compared to a starting teacher is
slightly over 3 to 1 but I fudged it up a bit just to avoid nit picking with
the numbers. In larger districts the superintendent's salary is pegged to
the Governor's. My point really is that the pay of an administrator in
education is significantly lower than similar private sector positions. I
believe you can hire starting principals for under $65k in many parts of the
state. Can you imagine a private sector supervisor in charge of 20-40
college graduates, 10-20 other support staff, and 200 - 400 line workers
accepting that pay rate even in outstate Minnesota?
"460 to 1 or in real dollars Administrators are making $13.8 million dollars
if the teacher is paid $30,000 or even $1.38 million using 46 to 1?"
The average CEO wage compared to the average American worker's pay is
between 400 to 1 and 460 to 1 depending on the source so your numbers are
close. According to this source:
http://www.faireconomy.org/press/2005/EE2005_pr.html
"The ratio of average CEO pay (now $11.8 million) to worker pay (now
$27,460) spiked up from 301-to-1 in 2003 to 431-to-1 in 2004. "
When the average Superintendent's pay hits somewhere north of $6 million I
think we can start the discussion about whether Educational administrators
are over paid. Short of that the contention is simply preposterous.
Bryon Bothun
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Double" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Online Democracy" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 4:56 PM
Subject: FW: [Winona] School Administrators/NPR bias
[Winona Online Democracy]
Bryon
Are we missing something from your post?
460 to 1 or in real dollars Administrators are making $13.8 million dollars
if the teacher is paid $30,000 or even $1.38 million using 46 to 1?
Even your ratio of 4 to 1 I find hard to believe. Maybe the Minneapolis or
St. Paul school district superintendents in the Twin Cities are pulling
those ratios but not in Greater Minnesota.
Paul Double
Behalf Of Bothuns
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 4:25 PM
[Winona Online Democracy]
I'm sorry, but when I read somewhere that the solution to our education
problems is simply to cut spending, on anything, I just have to laugh, and
then cry. Right now countries like Colombia, Malaysia and Hungry already
outspend the US on Education as a percentage of GDP. No disrespect
intended, but should we assume that it is OK to come in behind those
countries and still claim to be the leaders of the free world?
When the average Principal to Teacher pay ratio hits 460 to 1, as it is in
the private sector, or perhaps just 46 to 1, like it was in the US private
sector just 20 years ago, then I'll get interested in cutting administrative
expenditures. Right now it stands at about 4 to 1 in Minnesota which
clearly implies that it needs to go up not down.
Bryon Bothun
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