[Winona Online Democracy]
Some data may be helpful in comparing teachers' and school administrators'
salaries. According to the latest survey of the Department of Labor, in May
2004, elementary and secondary school administrators in the United States
had a median annual earnings of $74,190.A survey by the Educational Research
Service, indicated higher salaries. According to the ERS, salaries in the
2004-2005 school year were as follows:
Senior high principals $82,225; jr. high/middle school principals $78,160;
elementary school principals, $74,062. Respective salaries for assistant
principals were $68,945, $66,319, and $63,398. Given the responsibilities
these administrators have, the salaries appear low, but they reflect local
values and fiscal capacity.
According to the latest survey of the American Federation of Teachers (whose
data is used by the U. S. Department of Labor), the median salary of public
school teachers in the United States in 2003-2004 was $45,597. This figure
excluded income for extra duties.
Local school superintendents' salaries vary widely, but outside a handful of
major cities, few top administrators receive four times the salary of
teachers. Superintendents do tend to be the most highly paid of all local
(and a vast majority of state) officials, but the difference between their
salaries and those of their employees is not comparable to the sometimes
astronomical differences in private business.
Roy Nasstrom
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From: "Leslie Hittner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Kathy Seifert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Paul Double"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Online Democracy" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Winona] School Administrators/NPR bias
[Winona Online Democracy]
I think Bryon is talking about dollars in the private sector. He states at
the end of his post that school administrators in Minnesota (not in
charter
schools, however) are making about 4 to 1 over the average teacher salary.
That's probably correct. His statements about private sector top
administrator salary compared to the "worker bee" pay is pretty accurate
too.
-Leslie Hittner
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kathy Seifert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Paul Double" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Online Democracy"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Winona] School Administrators/NPR bias
[Winona Online Democracy]
I think he was speaking of the number of administrators (principals) for
each teacher within the district--we are talking about people, not
dollars
:)!! That's the heart of the problem--if it's only about the bottom line
dollar and not about the quality of the product, we'll never be talking
about the same thing. I'm sure we can operate a school district with
less
and less over the years, but at what point does it become a school
district
that produces little of value and why in the world would that be our
goal?
Kathy Seifert
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Double" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Online Democracy" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 4:56 PM
Subject: FW: [Winona] School Administrators/NPR bias
[Winona Online Democracy]
Bryon
Are we missing something from your post?
460 to 1 or in real dollars Administrators are making $13.8 million
dollars
if the teacher is paid $30,000 or even $1.38 million using 46 to 1?
Even your ratio of 4 to 1 I find hard to believe. Maybe the Minneapolis
or
St. Paul school district superintendents in the Twin Cities are pulling
those ratios but not in Greater Minnesota.
Paul Double
Behalf Of Bothuns
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 4:25 PM
[Winona Online Democracy]
I'm sorry, but when I read somewhere that the solution to our education
problems is simply to cut spending, on anything, I just have to laugh,
and
then cry. Right now countries like Colombia, Malaysia and Hungry already
outspend the US on Education as a percentage of GDP. No disrespect
intended, but should we assume that it is OK to come in behind those
countries and still claim to be the leaders of the free world?
When the average Principal to Teacher pay ratio hits 460 to 1, as it is
in
the private sector, or perhaps just 46 to 1, like it was in the US
private
sector just 20 years ago, then I'll get interested in cutting
administrative
expenditures. Right now it stands at about 4 to 1 in Minnesota which
clearly implies that it needs to go up not down.
Bryon Bothun
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