so should primus be avoided? Dan Metcalf Wireless Broadband Systems www.wbisp.com 781-566-2053 ext 6201 1-888-wbsystem (888) 927-9783 [EMAIL PROTECTED] support: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Peter R. > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 2:05 PM > To: John Scrivner > Cc: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance > > Primus is a big International LD company. That is how it began in 1994. > Check out the Primus Wireless plan. Cellular and VOIP are based in > International exchanges. > > Primus has short term debt of $26M; long term is $635M. > About to be de-listed from Nasdaq. > Net loss for the fourth quarter 2005 was ($25) million (including a $13 > million net loss from foreign currency transactions, a $4 million gain > on early extinguishment of debt and $1 million in severance expense). > > Revenue growth was in wireless (MVNO), Covad re-sale, and International > markets. > > Retail VOIP services grew modestly in the quarter to approximately > 104,000 customers. This growth level reflects the fact that the Company > continued to moderate its investment in LINGO in part due to the > disruption in marketing activities raised by E911 regulations. Revenue > from retail VOIP customers reached $8 million during the fourth quarter. > > > John Scrivner wrote: > > > Primus tells me they are more than a VOIP company and that they do > > make money. They impressed me in my dealings with them. Can you share > > more about your information about Primus? I have a big interest in > > knowing anything I can about them right now. > > Thanks, > > Scriv > > > > > > Peter R. wrote: > > > >> You haven't seen it yet, because Lingo is not profitable yet. > >> Primus owns Lingo and Primus is basically an International VOIP company. > >> > >> Like so many VOIP Providers, they are still trying to figure out how > >> to make a profit. > >> > >> Delta3 (which is the backend for VZ's VoiceWing) made $9.1M in > >> revenue in 4Q05 and just $22k in income. > >> > >> Vonage has a customer acquisition cost that is 20 times their MRC. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Peter > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.0/275 - Release Date: 03/06/2006 > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.0/275 - Release Date: 03/06/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
