so should primus be avoided?

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Peter R.
> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 2:05 PM
> To: John Scrivner
> Cc: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance
> 
> Primus is a big International LD company. That is how it began in 1994.
> Check out the Primus Wireless plan. Cellular and VOIP are based in
> International exchanges.
> 
> Primus has short term debt of $26M; long term is $635M.
> About to be de-listed from Nasdaq.
> Net loss for the fourth quarter 2005 was ($25) million (including a $13
> million net loss from foreign currency transactions, a $4 million gain
> on early extinguishment of debt and $1 million in severance expense).
> 
> Revenue growth was in wireless (MVNO), Covad re-sale, and International
> markets.
> 
> Retail VOIP services grew modestly in the quarter to approximately
> 104,000 customers. This growth level reflects the fact that the Company
> continued to moderate its investment in LINGO in part due to the
> disruption in marketing activities raised by E911 regulations. Revenue
> from retail VOIP customers reached $8 million during the fourth quarter.
> 
> 
> John Scrivner wrote:
> 
> > Primus tells me they are more than a VOIP company and that they do
> > make money. They impressed me in my dealings with them. Can you share
> > more about your information about Primus? I have a big interest in
> > knowing anything I can about them right now.
> > Thanks,
> > Scriv
> >
> >
> > Peter R. wrote:
> >
> >> You haven't seen it yet, because Lingo is not profitable yet.
> >> Primus owns Lingo and Primus is basically an International VOIP company.
> >>
> >> Like so many VOIP Providers, they are still trying to figure out how
> >> to make a profit.
> >>
> >> Delta3 (which is the backend for VZ's VoiceWing) made $9.1M in
> >> revenue in 4Q05 and just $22k in income.
> >>
> >> Vonage has a customer acquisition cost that is 20 times their MRC.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Peter
> >
> 
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