Where can I find out what WISPA's official positions are?  Where can I see
the letters and actions WISPA has sent on behalf of its members?  The root
of my questions is, "How do I know that the money I spend is making a
difference?"

I've joined organizations before.  I send them my check or give them a
credit card number and never hear from them again... until they want more
money.  I don't support my local Chamber of Commerce for this exact reason.
What does my local Chamber of Commerce do to deserve my money?  After a
year, I didn't know, so I cancelled my membership.

Dave

989-837-3790 x 151
989-837-3780 fax

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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129 Ashman St, Midland, MI  48640
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this?


> I'm really at a bit of a loss as to how to deal with your question David.
>
> What's a trade association do for you?  (You being generic here....)  The
> idea that the question was asked indicates to me that one doesn't
understand
> what a trade group is for.
>
> It's not, at least not at first, there to put money in your pocket.  Nor
is
> it there to help you control your costs.  Oh sure, most of those things
can
> and will happen at some point.  But it takes time, people and money to
make
> any of that happen.
>
> At this stage WISPA is there to protect our industry!!!!  If you don't
> support WISPA we'll not be able to have any voice at all at the FCC or in
> congress.  Especially the FCC.
>
> You see, we talked to folks at the FCC before we set WISPA up.  They made
it
> clear that they'd much rather deal with a trade org. than many
individuals.
> Seems that they don't want to deal with the petty differences of opinion
> either!  They want a stand all hashed out before it gets to them wherever
> that's possible.
>
> No one should, at this stage of the game, be asking what WISPA will do for
> them.  You should all be asking what you can do for WISPA.
>
> Dialup ISPs took it in the shorts far more often than they ever should
have.
> I'm in no mood to put up with that with wireless too.  It's mostly a
safety
> in numbers thing.
>
> We deliberately made the dues so low that there's NO reason people can't
> join.  Heck, on principal alone people should be flocking to us.
>
> If you are one of those frustrated that WISPA isn't doing enough, join the
> club.  We're all frustrated about that.  But just how many more hundreds
> (thousands????) of hours should I have to take away from my business and
my
> family when others won't lift a finger?  How does the saying go?  United
we
> stand, divided we fall.  Are those who haven't joined uniters or dividers?
>
> That help?
> marlon
>
> Marlon
> (509) 982-2181                                   Equipment sales
> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)                    Consulting services
> 42846865 (icq)                                    And I run my own wisp!
> 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Sovereen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 7:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this?
>
>
> >I agree with your sentiments completely.
> >
> > One needs to ask, though, "why aren't ISPs supporting WISPA?"  The
answer
> > is
> > more than likely the same answer most small businesses give when asked
why
> > they don't join industry associations: it's not worthwhile... it costs
> > more
> > money than the benefits of membership are worth.
> >
> > My company is not a member of WISPA.  And at this point, I don't see
what
> > benefit membership in WISPA would give me.  I'm a believer in the
strength
> > of numbers and joining ranks for greater good.  That's why I support
NFIB
> > and USIIA, as well as local organizations in my state and community.
> >
> > Why should I send $250 to WISPA?
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > 989-837-3790 x 151
> > 989-837-3780 fax
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > www.mercury.net
> >
> > 129 Ashman St, Midland, MI  48640
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 5:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this?
> >
> >
> >> The problem with all of this is that most ISP's wireless or land line
> >> historically do not get involved in a trade association and work
> >> together for the common good.
> >>
> >> Land line ISP's didn't join together and wisps are not joining together
> >> either.
> >>
> >> Here WISPA has been created and hardly anyone is taking advantage of
> >> joining WISPA and trying to get anything done.
> >>
> >> This is the sad thing that is discouraging, that an organization has
> >> been created and nobody is taking advantage of it.
> >> It's also discouraging to hear that some people say or imply that WISPA
> >> is a good old boys club run by insiders, when in actuality WISPA is an
> >> organization "wide open" that just about anyone in the wisp business
can
> >> join run for office get elected and take charge.
> >>
> >> Very disappointing, and this is what makes me scream when I hear posts
> >> like Roberts the other day accusing board members of getting paid with
> >> perks or Marks suggestion this morning that the board is on the inside
> >> with this stuff.
> >>
> >> You guys, the wisps that are out in the fields doing the wisp business
> >> should be trying harder to get the entire wisp community to join this
> >> organization and to get something accomplished.
> >>
> >> My "poll" for a working group for muni wireless had 2 respondents.
> >> Only 2 wisps are interested or think they need help with muni wireless?
> >> Hard to believe.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> George Rogato
> >>
> >> Welcome to WISPA
> >>
> >> www.wispa.org
> >>
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