And when low cost civic access is not a component of the project, we do not believe mesh fits at all (except for small, localized clusters like in parks). In such cases, there is no one to fund it for free and cities themselves cannot justify 50-60 mesh nodes per square mile for their own internal use. So we spec in our mobile 900MHz layered under BreezeACCESS VL and/or 4900 cells (depending on the applications). In this method, we can get 1mbps net to vehicles using only a tenth of less of the infrastructure. At the same time, we enable officers to benefit from low cost Wi-Fi access by making the cars themselves Wi-Fi pico cells that they can use to connect to via PDAs or laptops. This is exactly why we won large installed public safety projects like Ocean City, MD; Cheyenne, WY; Fresno, CA; multiple cities on the edge of Chicago; and many other places. Those are networks where there is no residential/low cost civic access, this no rational case at all for mesh.
Patrick Leary AVP Marketing Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 9:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ma Bell's About Face On Muni-WiFi Matt, We are on the same page, trust me. There has yet to be a solidly working civic access muni network. By solidly, I mean indoor coverage without forced buying of a secondary CPE. We have also yet to see a successfully scaled mesh network for low cost civic access. Philly and San Fran are still on paper only. These networks are able to provide good outdoor coverage only so far. That is also why we like playing the multipoint backhaul layer. We can reliably deliver that middle layer and get high connectivity for the mesh nodes, fixed cameras, traffic lights, a city buildings, but the success of the Wi-Fi layer is beyond our control and remains the questionable piece. Patrick -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 9:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ma Bell's About Face On Muni-WiFi Patrick Leary wrote: > I agree that many WISPs have panned muni wi-fi instead of leveraging > their expertise. WISPs were arguably best positioned initially to > address this need. Smart VARs and resellers got busy though and whether > WISPs realize it, almost all the VARs that serve the WISP community now > have a muni engagement. It is just a business reality. > > And why shouldn't they? If you are radio vendor, reseller, or VAR muni Wi-Fi is a great thing. You get to sell a bunch radios and consulting time. It doesn't matter if the business plan makes sense or if the network even works long term. operators on the other hand have to be concerned about the long-term. Patrick, I bet your radios are doing great technically in the Mountain View deployment, but you stated you personally aren't able to use the Wi-Fi portion of the network. Does that make the network a failure from your perspective as a consumer? -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ************************************************************************ ************ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(192). ************************************************************************ ************ ************************************************************************ ************ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(42). ************************************************************************ ************ ************************************************************************ ************ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. ************************************************************************ ************ -- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ************************************************************************ ************ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(191). ************************************************************************ ************ ************************************************************************ ************ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(43). ************************************************************************ ************ ************************************************************************************ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. ************************************************************************************ -- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
